Episode Transcript
[00:00:06] Speaker A: All right, we're back. We got Jay Servideo.
[00:00:10] Speaker B: Howdy.
[00:00:12] Speaker A: He's a comic writer.
Well, you do a lot of shit, dude.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: I got a lot of hyphens.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: Yeah, stuff, man. You do a lot of stuff.
How you been?
[00:00:23] Speaker B: Every day is Christmas, man. I can't complain. I'm doing the damn thing, you know.
[00:00:26] Speaker A: Well, let's jump right into it.
[00:00:27] Speaker B: You're.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: You're doing a show.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Caveat.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: Caveat. All right, so tell me about it.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: Lower east side. So that's. It's called on the Watch List with Jacer Video. It started out as a podcast like a year ago.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: And I was just, just me breaking down the news and trying to be funny. And I was like, dude, I feel like there's a better way to do this. And so I kind of was like, for the last calendar year, I've been throwing around the idea to myself of like, let me go do like a late night comedy show. Because that was something we. When I grew up, I was always watching like the Daily Show, Colbert Report.
I always thought that was like the funniest shit on tv. And so, you know, my goal as a kid was to have a show like that.
And I kind of was like pussyfooting around it. I was like, maybe I'll do this, maybe I won't.
And I kind of reached out.
I met this woman, Amy Curl, and she is, she's another human writer. She writes for, I don't know if you know, Hard Times News. They do like punk rock satire.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:22] Speaker B: Online.
And we met it like this guy, James Filter, who's the editor of a humor magazine called Points in Case. He puts together these, these like satire writer meetups for people who write like comedy for like the Internet and write comedy for like the page and shit like that.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: So I met her and I just, we got talking and I was like, yo, I really vibe with this person.
And I threw out the idea. I was like, hey, you know, I thought about like putting together a late night show. Yeah, Would you be interested in producing with me? Just like off the bat? She was like absolute fucking lutely. So we got got going.
I put together like a call sheet that are basically a call for aid to see who would be interested. We got like 40 people fucking responded. Yeah, it was wild. And as of right now, we got like a team of like 17, 18 people.
At one point we had like 22. But you know, people say yes to shit and then they drop out because that's just life. But as of right now, we got 17, like, really committed people working on this program, and I'm. I'm really fucking pumped. We've got, like, it's, it's. It's gonna work out. Like, we've got like, like headline news. Five minutes of that at the top. Rex Lenyall is doing, like, a short film to set up, like, the larger topic.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: I love.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. Rex is great, man. He's a really talented animator. He's gonna be animating for the show.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: That's cool.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: And then we're gonna be doing like a five.
Five to 15 minute, like, monologue. Like John Oliver kind of does.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: Where we break down a topic. And the topic we're doing for the first episode is AI.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: So it should be really fucking wild. And so the. The monologue team is me, Ty Marsh, Parker Teague, this guy Luke Strom, who's out of Philly. He's another really funny humor writer. And Sam Bedali.
[00:03:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: And dude, the amount of research we've been doing the last couple of weeks on this shit. Yeah. Like you, I guess, you know, folks will see it when it's out, but, bro, it's like, we're fucked. Yeah. We are not even like, artists. I'm talking about, like, human beings are fucked. Like, these people want privately owned nuclear power plants. Yeah. Like, the other day Alex Karp, who's the CEO of Palantir, was like, you know, we're talking about how it's looking like they're trying to set up like a surveillance state. Trans feudal, not trans techno, feudalist kind of society in America. I'm like, how the hell are we gonna be able to convince people that, like, this is what they're doing? But, like, very much the evidence is that's what. That. That's what it points to. And then the other day, Alex Karp makes a fucking comment. He's like, if we have to choose between China winning the AR AI arms race and a feudalist state in America, I'm gonna pick the feudalist state in America. My dude, he literally said the fucking thing out loud.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:54] Speaker B: It's crazy how wild all of this shit is, man. I don't want to get into all of it because it. We are gonna be talking a lot about it during the show. But aside from the monologue, we got, like, sketches. We're gonna have, like, character interviews. Then we're gonna have, like, an interview for a.
Like a cause essentially that isn't getting enough attention. So we're getting this woman, Natalie Agus, to come on and talk about this organization, Justice Aid, that this year is trying to get people's access to abortion going on, stuff like that.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:04:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: And when is the show?
[00:04:21] Speaker B: So the. November 22nd at 4:00pm that's a wild time, dude.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: It's a hard time.
[00:04:27] Speaker B: It's the only late night show that leaves your evening open. That's what I've been telling people.
[00:04:33] Speaker A: Okay, well, late night shows are usually.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Shot during the day, but everybody has been saying.
[00:04:37] Speaker A: Oh, was it Saturday, though?
[00:04:40] Speaker B: It's a Saturday.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: That's not terrible, I guess. But I mean. So who's hosting? You're. You're the host?
[00:04:45] Speaker B: I'm the host.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: Okay, so you're going to be doing the monologue. The 15 minute monologue, yeah. So you, you. Are you going to memorize it? Are you reading off a teleprompter or what?
[00:04:54] Speaker B: We're working that out, Harrison.
I'm going to try and have it memorized that when we're done here, we're going to be basically putting the final punches and shit like that on. On the piece.
[00:05:03] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: It's looking great so far. I'm very excited.
But I think I'm going to have to memorize a bit of it. I'm going to have to have it. We are going to have a teleprompter. So it's going to be like I'm going to have to be keeping up and at least having the pacing memorized. But yeah, the phrasing. I'm going to be relying on the teleprompter 100.
[00:05:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you can also. I mean, this cute. So you can have like a legit. A legit teleprompter there.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: I think so, yeah.
[00:05:26] Speaker A: Okay. Because if not, I mean, you could do the SNL style and just fucking cue cart dude, which is a lot.
[00:05:32] Speaker B: Like his arms would be this.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:34] Speaker B: Holding a stack this thick. 15 minutes, just dropping right in front of him.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: Yeah, man, that's. That's a lot of work, dude. I. I never in my life ever even considered wanting to do that.
I never. I didn't. I like Letterman. Growing up. I did watch that. Like out of all the late night guys. I like Leno too, but Letterman was like my guy.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: Really?
[00:05:55] Speaker A: But I never.
It was not something I was like, this is cool to me. I was.
I grew up listening to Stern.
[00:06:03] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:06:03] Speaker A: So, like, to me, it was like that I would do that sooner than a late night show, which is crazy because I know nothing about radio.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: Well, this is kind of that a little bit, you know, like they're saying that this is taken like the radios. I mean, there's still people who listen to radio while they work and.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:15] Speaker B: You know, but.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Well, podcast now.
[00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah, 100.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: But that's. That's very cool, man. I mean, I was talking to Ty and Sarah. We were at St Mark's and they were just talking about. I was like, what are you guys talking about? And they're like, oh, we got to do this thing for Jay show. And they were, they. They were like, this is a lot of work. And I was like, oh, that's. That's dope. It's fun to, to have a project to like, put yourself in, you know?
[00:06:35] Speaker B: Yeah, man. We'll see like, what happens after this because I. I'd love to do more episodes. It's. But I'll tell you, dude, like, the amount of research, it's. It's really gut busting.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: Sarah went and in two days she shot an entire script. Yeah, she wrote a script, she sought the script and then she edited it to get to like our secondary editor, this guy Nate Schekman, or he goes by Nate Flynn. He's a very funny, like, sketch comic.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:01] Speaker B: And he's gonna be doing another thing that he, Cory and I wrote another segment. Yeah, that's gonna be fucking awesome. But there's a lot of moving pieces and I kind of have to keep my hands on everything, but I have to trust that everybody can get it done. Sarah, like, met her deadlines, got everything banged out. It was great.
Right now we're just trying to cut it down for time constraints and stuff like that.
[00:07:19] Speaker A: So how long do you have the space for?
[00:07:21] Speaker B: Like an hour and 20 minutes, bro.
[00:07:24] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:07:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:25] Speaker A: And how much money is it costing.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: You literally, just to shoot it?
[00:07:29] Speaker A: That's like, just to rent the space, just.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: No, I'm not even renting the space. They just have tech stuff. Like we're going to be live streaming the show. So for people who can't be there in person, they're going to be able to watch it online in real time.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: In real time.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: In real time.
Dude. It's so. This is. I'm telling you, man. Like, I was kind of like, yeah, let me do a late night show. And it's just the amount of. Thank God I have Amy on the team and like, thank God the team is so awesome, bro. I mean, like, but thank God I have Amy helping me, like, with all the production side of stuff, because I went into this, like, yeah, we'll just figure it out. I. No, we had to Reach out to, like, timeout New York, like, for promo and like, that.
Hopefully they'll be getting that up by the time this is out.
We had to logistically figure out, like my own pocket how I'm gonna be budgeting shooting the show.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:15] Speaker B: And thankfully the venue is doing it with like a three camera setup.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Mm.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: We had to budget who's gonna be editing the fucking final product to get it out onto YouTube when we put it on substack as well. It's. Dude, this has been a nightmare. Logistic. And I mean, like, not really, but I'm saying, like, terms of what I thought it was gonna be. It's incredibly way more complicated. And I'm glad that I have an awesome team helping me get this shit done.
[00:08:37] Speaker A: Are you actually enjoying the process? Are you hating it?
[00:08:40] Speaker B: I love it. Yeah. Oh, no, no, I, I am. I won't lie. I'm terrified. This is like the most ambitious thing I've ever done in my life. But, like, seeing how dedicated everybody else is, like, the belief that they have is kind of been really refreshing. It's been really awesome to know that they have my back. Yeah. So in that sense, I'm very much excited to, you know, be working with people. People who are excited to work on something that I came up with.
[00:09:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it seems like you're, it's like the right alley for you. I mean, you've always been very in tune with what's going on in the news and you've always been, you've been up to snuff on stuff like that. And I, I, I was always like, you, you. There were times where you would tell me and you're pretty. There's a significant age gap between you and I.
What are you, 20?
[00:09:22] Speaker B: I'm gonna be 25 the day of the show. Actually, we decided that's on your birthday. Yeah. The only day that we had, availability wise, at the venue was to shoot on my birthday.
[00:09:31] Speaker A: So you're 25? I'm going to be 32 next month.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: So it's not a huge age gap, but you've always been the one that's telling me, yo, did you hear about this in the news? And I'm like, honestly, no, dude. I'm like, I don't, I'm not very in tune with any of it, dude.
[00:09:42] Speaker B: Honestly, it's, it's more. I would say it's probably just schizophrenia is what it is. I just have to keep myself occupied, the rest of voices, you know. But no, in all honesty, man, I'VE just always tried to keep my, my, my, my finger on the pulse of like, what's happening.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: And you know, be that pop culture politics or, you know, fucking tech.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: I'm just interested by this stuff. I've always, I've always been, you know, like, how can I cover. Cover this?
And I, I, you know, when. Even when it came to writing stand up and doing that kind of shit, I've always believed that, like, that makes you a better writer. It gives you a chance to be able to have a fire under your ass. It's like, I gotta get this thing done.
[00:10:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: Cause it's one thing if everybody shows up to, to a mic with like, the same Charlie Kirk joke, you know, because of what ha. But like, if you can be like, hey, do you guys hear about like, this thing going on in Laos?
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, no. And you could come at that. Like. One of my favorite jokes I've ever written was the, the Taliban tourism bit with. Yeah, that was before the Riyadh Comedy Festival came out too. So, like, I, I was just like, this is a fucking crazy thing that the Taliban wants to open up a thing like a tourism department. Yeah. I mean, Afghanistan, like, that's wild.
I just, I've always tried to, you know, find this time sensitive shit, see how I can make it palatable for an audience.
[00:10:59] Speaker A: You know, I do that, but with less political shit. Like, stuff it's in the news of like, freak accidents that happen and stuff like that. That. So in that sense, I get it. Pop culture, I'm big on, but when it comes to politics, I just.
Unless it was like, you know, the mayoral election in New York City, which I was very in tune with, but I didn't, I don't. I was never. You've always. There's been. Every time I've seen you, you've been like, dude, do you hear about this, this, this and that? And I was like, oh, no, I didn't. I'm like, but that's interesting.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I definitely feel like a crazy person sometimes when I'm talking about with like, either you or Eli or Joe. Joe's like, whoa, I had no idea that, like, that's going on.
[00:11:37] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:11:37] Speaker B: It's gonna kill us all. You know what I mean? Like, that's. I feel like always my memo.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: But do you feel like. See, that's, that's the thing that I think is the, the.
It could be.
What's the word I'm looking for?
When you read that stuff, you get very like, Apocalypse, you know, that's it. It's over. But you, you can't. No, you have to have hope. You have that everything's gonna be okay, 100%.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: And that's kind of, I guess, what the purpose of the show is.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:01] Speaker B: So as opposed to being like doom and which is like we're running through the facts. They're very upsetting the, when you look at them.
[00:12:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: At the end, something that I kind of was talking to the writers about is like, I always want to have like a call to action. I was gonna be like, what can we do? What can we propose that might be like a solution or what? Can try and give people like a, some semblance of hope that they'll be able to take into their hands and be like, let's go.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah, you need that.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: And that's something that we've done with the first episode. I'm glad that we have the solution that we have. I think people are going to like it when they hear it. So. Yeah, we'll hear it. We'll get it done.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: I think I, I, I'm looking forward to hearing it because, I mean, they had the whole AI thing.
I've had, I've had very negative thoughts about it also.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: But at the end of the day, I just go, well, it's, it's something we'll, we'll be, you know, hopefully we'll be fine. You know what I mean? Like, I can't. The more you sit and go, we're, it's just. That's useless.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: A hundred percent. That's why, again, like, call to action. Huge, huge thing that for me, I need to make sure that there's solutions.
[00:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Because I don't want to just be like, you know, like, they're putting chemicals in the water that are turning the femboys straight. You know, I want to be like, I want to be able to provide solutions for shit. Yeah. That's just, that's just it. Because again, you're right, dude. To go through life and be like, damn, man, we're all gonna die. Like, you know, we're building the asteroid. We're the dinosaurs. Like, that's a fucking cancerous way to go through life.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, there's really no point in living. You may as well just go kill yourself.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: 100 fucking. It's super nihilistic. I'm not a fan of it, but I, I'm a big existentialist guy, you know what I mean? I'm like, yo, if we can, you know, if you If. If you're gonna make. If you're gonna focus on this stuff, like. Like, I try to make a statement and try and do some kind of. Elicit some kind of change, I guess, is what I'm. What I'm trying to say.
But. Yeah, man, I just. I don't know. It's just. It's. We're trying to be as silly goofy about it as possible, but, like. Like, Ty and I were talking and. And I was talking again with Parker as well the other day. Parker Teague and Parker. Ty, he's. He's also very funny. And I was like, bro, we got. We got to do something.
I mean, I. I don't know. It is what it is. We're having a good time, though.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Do you still believe that, like, something like this can see. Because I'm. I'm a little older, and I have. My thing is, like, I don't really believe in the. What I'm gonna do is gonna help the stop or change something. My thing is, like, I. I'm more on the entertainment side, where I go, well, I'm gonna humor you while the world is burning, and hopefully it won't, you know, completely burn everything out. But my thing is just entertain, have a good time and laugh through it. Whereas you. I think I feel like you could change the world. Do you feel that way?
[00:14:37] Speaker B: I don't know if I can. I know that, like, more often than I. More often than not, I feel like I have a take, and whether or not people want to hear it, I'm going to at least try and put it out there, and if it goes nowhere, great. I. I tried my best. You know what I mean? I feel like chicken little more often than not if I'm being real. But, like, it's.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: It's. It's. But that's a good way to go about it. It's like, you know, I. I do have a voice, and you should use your voice, so. And. And whoever will take from it. Okay. That's because there's people out there who are like, I'm gonna change every. And it's like, you're an idiot.
You know?
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I was again, like, I was joking with the guys. I'm like, this could be common sense, but it is all more than likely that it will not be. You know what I mean?
[00:15:20] Speaker A: Like, yeah, yeah.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: Like, you don't have media like that that completely elicits.
Not since Tiger, Tiger King.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Has there been a thing that swept the nation and motivated us all.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: It's very well I mean, Tiger King swept the nation. The last thing that swept the nation wasn't a good thing.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: No, it was.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: Charlie Kirk.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: Yeah, that was very much. Yeah, that was rough. I mean, I. I know it's crazy. I hear a lot of people going, well, you know, it's a nuanced issue. You know what I mean? Trying to explain why they're, like, cool with being shot. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? This is like. It's not, but it is. It is weird, man. It's just. It's just a weird world that we're living in. 2026 is gonna be so fucking strange.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: I mean, 2025 is pretty strange.
[00:16:04] Speaker B: It's. Dude, it's been. I was. I don't know. I feel like if I didn't get the chance to go out and I. Again, I spent. I told you earlier, I spent some time in Arizona. I spent some time in Utah. I was checking out the national parks and stuff like that. It was. It was amazing, bro. Yeah, I had a great time doing that. And I had a little bit of wanderlust this year, and I think that might have come from just, like, feeling a little sedentary here, and at the same time also being like, dude, is too crazy. I need to get going and fucking figure out. But while I was out there, that's kind of where I kind of decided to myself, like, I'm going to. I'm gonna do the show. So it was kind of. That was helpful, I guess, to a degree.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: When you get away and you go, were you alone or you went with someone?
[00:16:42] Speaker B: I went. So I have family out there.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: Okay, I gotta see some family.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah, my aunt, my uncle, and then they're two sets of twins.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: So you were able to hang with family. You were able to be in touch with nature. There's something about the outskirts of America, like, even. Even just leaving New York City, when you get on the highway and you see what 99 of the country looks like and just feeling that solitude, there is a. I. I did some traveling in my late 20s where I was in Oklahoma, and then I ended up in Oregon, then I was in California. Lived there for a year. And it was.
It was the best time ever, because it was the. It was just.
I was. I was on my own, but I wasn't. And it changed my whole way of thinking. And it gives you some clarity to be out of this place. As great as New York is. I love it. It's amazing.
The quiet of other places is really. And Seeing how beautiful this country is, it just. Just changes your perspective, you know?
[00:17:40] Speaker B: I agree 100%, man. I mean, my girlfriend and I, you know, we've been together for a long time.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: And we, we travel a lot. I mean, like the last two years, we've been going up to like New England in the summer like that. So we, you know, we'll check out like Cape Cod. We'll go to like new. All the forests in New Hampshire and shit like that. We did that again this year.
But we went out, we went to a few places we've never been before. Like, you ever been to Portsmouth, New Hampshire?
[00:18:00] Speaker A: No, never been in New Hampshire.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: It's like a crazy little fishing village. It's like, yeah. On it's a 15 if I could be wrong about this, so please don't kill me in the comments. It's like a 15 mile radius of shoreline.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: And that's all New Hampshire has access to the ocean wise. Wow. Yeah. And the rest of it is surrounded by Massachusetts and Maine. And it's just. It's beautiful, bro. You could throw a rock in the main if you wanted to.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: That's cool.
[00:18:24] Speaker B: It's pretty. It's pretty cool. And being able to do that, being able to go out west, it's. It's always refreshing for me, man, when I get to go take a. And I really try to be present and not do like art when I'm. When I'm away on vacation. Because I'm like, let me be present. Let me let these kind of experiences inform the next couple of things I do. That's.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: You know, I had that actually the other day, and this is gonna sound ridiculous, but like, I had worked all day on Friday and then I came home and old friend of mine who I haven't seen in a little while, we don't talk as much as we should. He was like my first friend ever.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: He called me up and he was like, hey, we're gonna go get pizza in Park Slope. Like, me, another old friend, another old friend, and they're some of their wives. And I was like, I'm exhausted. I don't know. And I'm like, I'll let you know. Calls me again. He goes, are you coming? And I'm like, it, you know what? Let me just. Let me go change up the, the What I'm doing in my day to day. I'll go with these people who I don't see a lot. I did that. Then yesterday I did that again with, with. With someone else. And I wasn't thinking about comedy. I wasn't thinking about anything. I was just doing something different. And, dude, it sparked so much shit in my head. It's crazy.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: It's. It's wild how, like, space is good for you, bro. I mean, 100% is good for you. And anything I like, like, you ever read On Writing by Stephen King? It's a great book.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: No, I think I actually have it.
I may. I know the book really well.
[00:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: The motherfucker writes 10,000 words a day.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: That's 30 pages.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: That's a lot of fucking.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: It's crazy.
[00:19:57] Speaker B: I'm like, if I did that, I think I would kill myself.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: I mean, like, I can't do that shit. Like. And I love to write, but I, like, I know that everybody's got a different process, man. I feel like there is something universal. I mean, there's something important about being able to just show up and do the work. But, like, even more so than that, I feel like there's something universally that applies to being able to take away because your brain works subconsciously on the creative shit. I mean, that's when it. That's when it's. It's. It's having the most of its success, I feel like, is when you're not doing the thing, and then when you go show up, the work's already been done.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: I do that a lot, dude. I don't sit down and write anymore as much as I used to. Like, I do it very rarely. And if I do, it's like little notes and little, like little cloud ideas that I put in the phone, and then I'll go up on stage and. And just kind of sift through it. And that has been. Because I. My mind is working on it, whether I don't even know it is.
And it's. When I'm sitting down at the computer, I don't have.
My brain is like, I got nothing. I got nothing anymore. Now on stage, there's a little bit of pressure and it gives me. I am forced to think about this thing in the moment with people watching. And that's when I go. Something comes out of it and something, you know, builds or nothing. But, you know, it's still. It's. It's. It's a higher chance of something happen.
[00:21:07] Speaker B: It's still showing up to work. I feel like I don't know. Everybody's. That's a weird thing about comedy, man. It's. It's a one process. It's a one art form. I think that we're like, if you have a. I mean, paint, there's got a paint. You know what I mean? It's the same, it's the same shit. There's techniques that you can learn and stuff like that. This is the one thing where there's like no singular uniform technique.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: No, I mean, there's this. It's, it's set up punchline. Yeah, but some people don't even do that.
[00:21:33] Speaker B: A lot of.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: Yeah, you just, you could just be fucking hysterical.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: Like, Corey doesn't do set up punchline. I mean, there's some jokes but like.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: He'S, he's just funny.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: He's able to. Like. We were talking about this the other day. He always refers to it as the cosmic goo. But I'm always like. I always see him be able to like, he kind of just. He like emanates funny. He's able to like just pull that out of him and, and find ways to say completely absurd and unhinged. And I'm like, you are a rock star.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I love him. I love him very dearly.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: He's very, very talented, man.
[00:22:02] Speaker A: He and I had a big conversation about religion because I don't know anything about religion. And he, he's a huge Christian.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:10] Speaker A: Which is crazy.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: Incredibly devout.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: I know, I know. He, he was in my house, we've been talking about it. And he was like, dude, you gotta. You need to find your faith. Like, you need to. He goes. And he wasn't trying to convert me to Christianity.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: No.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: Yeah, he was. He was like in Jude. He's like, Judaism is. He goes, you. You gotta find your, your faith in it. And I was like, I don't not have faith in it, but I'm also. I don't know if I care about it that much. And he goes, nah, you gotta like. And he really got to me, dude. Like, there was a point where I was like, maybe I.
I've never read the fucking Old Testament. I don't know anything about it really. And telling you I'm completely oblivious to it. And I believe in a higher power, but I don't know shit. I know Passover, I know Hanukkah, I know that.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: But would your mother have a heart attack if you became like a Jew for Jesus?
[00:22:51] Speaker A: My parents would absolutely have a shit. My dad probably more than my mom. They both would. They'd go, this is insane. Which I would think so too. I would never not be a Jew. That's the thing. I don't know anything about it. I just know I'm a Jew 100.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: I hear you. I hear you.
[00:23:05] Speaker A: Yeah. The Juice for Jesus boggles my mind.
[00:23:08] Speaker B: I just think it's funny because. Have you seen the curb your Enthusiasm episode? With that. With that or. No, it's one of the newer seasons. I think it's like.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: No, if it's newer, I didn't see it.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: I think John Rudninski, who actually is like. Like a family friend of one of my family friends.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: He.
He's in that episode. And it's very funny. It's just. It's a good. It's a really funny concept.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: I mean, juice for Jesus is.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: It's. I mean, it's a very funny. I mean, that's like, what literally Peter was. It was just a Jew.
[00:23:36] Speaker A: It's crazy.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: It's. I don't know. It's. It's wild. But I agree with Corey in that sense that, like, there's.
It's a. To think of something outside of yourself is incredibly healthy.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: 100%.
[00:23:49] Speaker B: It's the best mindset you can have is to be like, oh, I'm fucking worthless compared to, like, the immensity of the universe.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: Oh, that I think about. See, that's the thing. I have that thought. I just don't put it in, like, a religion.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I think. And I think that that's fine, too. Just to be like, oh, whatever, Grand Poobah universe, you know, the Force, severe, a Jedi, whatever the fuck it is. It's just like, so to be able to step outside of yourself and see, like, hey, I'm like. You know what I mean? Nothing.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I was having this conversation with another conversation with Joe and another comic. We were driving to Jersey to do.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: A show, and where Vinny's.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: No, it was like a independent show at a bar.
And he. We were talking about, like, what are we doing all this for? And I. When I was younger, I have. I had visions of grandeur, of like, oh, a legacy. I'm like, I'm gonna leave something behind.
And the last couple years, I've been going, it's nonsense. There's no legacy. There's nothing to leave behind. I'm gonna be dead. And in a hundred years, my grandkids, if I ever have kids, my great grandchildren will never know who the fuck I was. And. And let's say they do. Let's say I do something magnificent like an Elon Musk or an Alan Turing, and. And there's a meteor that strikes the earth and blows everything to smithereens.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: We're gone, dude.
[00:25:01] Speaker A: No one will Ever know no one. There'll be no proof of any of this. So I'm like, it really doesn't matter. And that's the reason of Gandhi, I think is. And I don't. Not a big, you know, I'm not. All I know is a quote. He was like, everything in life you do is insignificant, but you have to do it. And it's like, that's like. I think people were talking. Joe was talking about legacy. And I was like, I don't even know if that fucking matters. Like it's all bullshit. It's just do it to do it.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: 100% resonate with that. A thousand percent.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:27] Speaker B: And I'm very much of the mindset of like, dude, like, I mean Jim Carrey was always like, oh, you could fail up what you hate, so why not do what you love?
[00:25:32] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: And it's like, dude, if we're gonna be here for like X amount of years, fuck around, bro. Have a fucking fun time, you know? So I'm with you on that. If you feel like this is what you. This is your self imbued purpose universe gonna help you out with that. You know what I mean? Just fucking do that thing.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: I think so, man. I think it's important and you know, whatever helps you get through the day, it makes you feel good. If it's religion, then, then let it be religion. It's.
But you know, Corey kept going on.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: Some people, it's going to little St. James. That was what their purpose was. You know what I mean? Hey, that was what I mean. I don't abide by that purpose. But that's what gave some people joy.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: Yeah, they did that. And it's. It's a weird thing what, what can give you joy. And I mean, hopefully it doesn't hurt. Your joy shouldn't come.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: Some people have joy in killing pedophiles. I would say that's a lot more fun than going a little St. James in my.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: There nothing wrong with that.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: I.
I actually have a shirt. It says kill your local pedophile on it. My cousin and I got them. His is black, mine is tie dye.
[00:26:32] Speaker A: Oh, that's gay.
[00:26:35] Speaker B: I was thinking about making a crop top.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: You know, I would do that. Get them. Kill your local ped.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Round them up. They're so naughty. We're gonna kill those.
I'm gonna kill you, Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:26:47] Speaker A: It's dig you up. I. How was I.
I don't even want to go on that down that route because it's just gonna derail us because this is Actually a good conversation.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Oh, sorry, bro.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: No, no, no. I was gonna say something stupid.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: I was worried that I was bringing the mood down.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: No, you're bringing the mood down. No, no, I like, dude, I don't give a fuck. Fuck everyone else. It's. We're having a conversation.
But yeah, man, there was a.
Corey said something else to me that was really interesting where he is like a.
[00:27:14] Speaker B: Shaman, you know, he's fucking wisdom up.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: Started a cult. I'd be. I'd be attempted, you know, I'd be tempted. I could feel it.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: The amount of late night conversations I've had with Corey Cooley where I'm like, you've opened up like a part of my brain up I hadn't felt since I was a child. Yeah. Anyway, continue. You were saying.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: I was talking. He was like, do you like what you do for work? Like, you know, I clean carpets during the day. And I'm like, honestly, no. He's like, why not? And I was like, because it's. It's hard. It's. It sucks. And he goes, you're using your body.
He goes, that's a blessing, man. And I'm like, you cocksucker, dude. I'm like, why would you say that? I'm like, because now. And he spoke to me for an hour about that too, where he's like, dude, it's a blessing what you get to do. You get to use your body. You get to feel tired. He goes, and then you get to be put in a situation where you go into people's homes and you're dealing with a fucking asshole. He goes, and you get to choose to be decent and, and show them your like, hey, I'm. I'm. You know, it's okay.
[00:28:09] Speaker B: And.
[00:28:09] Speaker A: And then they'll put their guard down and then you get to connect with someone genuinely who didn't have any intention of connecting. And he goes, that's a blessing. And it got me through last week.
Such a breeze. Dude.
[00:28:21] Speaker B: Dude, this guy is Socrates. You know that? Like, he literally is.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: He's a crystal met smoking Socrates.
[00:28:25] Speaker B: It's crazy. Not anymore.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: Not anymore.
But. But yeah, it was a wild thing where. And it changed the. The altered the whole.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: My whole week perception, dude.
Even more so. That perspective.
[00:28:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:37] Speaker B: Is the greatest. If you can get a change of perspective that, like, opens up. That was a horrible. That's bad too.
[00:28:45] Speaker A: There we go.
[00:28:45] Speaker B: Do you remember?
But when you get that change in perspective and you. It opens up the world in ways you didn't think it would. Yeah. Like, I don't know when I was. When I was like in high school, in college, I worked for this tent company, right? I was a manager at a tent company. And the truck that we used to deliver the tents to people's houses and shit like that for events and stuff like that, we'd set them like pole tents.
It was stuck on the radio. The radio station was stuck on like 104.3 classic rock. You know what I mean? That.
And so every. It was either every Monday or Tuesday, I can't even remember was years ago. Rebel Yell by Billy Idol would play no way. At like 9:30 in the morning. And I get like, the first couple of. First couple of weeks, I was like, whatever. But like after like a year and a half, two years working with this company, I was like, I'm gonna kill myself. You know what I mean? Like, this Rebel Yell became the bane of my existence.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: And I had a friend of mine who I met when I was at college. My buddy Josh Castle was. Was talking about, like, you know, how important gratitude is, you know, be grateful and like. And like being at the importance of just being okay with where you are but not being complacent, know? I mean like, loving being where your feet are.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: And I. I read Be Here now by Ram Dass, okay. At that time. And that fucking opened everything for me.
My mom was the one who gave it to him. And then he was like, you got to listen to your mother, bro. Read this fucking book. So I did. And I just. I got the time after I finished the book that I heard Rebel Yell. After that I was like, this is like a sign of like where I am right now.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: And I was like. I kind of realized, like, life is a lot like that. You know what I mean? If you turn your radio on and you. That you. You music can be playing. Rebel Yells gonna be on every single fucking Monday or Tuesday at 9:30. And you can either learn to hate yourself and hate Rebel Yell and take that as like a you're stuck and God hates you and nothing's gonna get better, or you can learn to love the sound of Rebel Yellow. Yeah. And just fucking know that, like, hey, I'm here, I'm doing my thing and I'm going to be breathing and living. So that's one of my favorite songs now is like, since that switch, bro. I just. It's just one of like on my driving playlist.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: You need. You need to have that. You need to. Otherwise there's no. There's really no point.
And that's That's. It's. It's interesting because it's literally what. What happened to me this week. But the thing about perspective is that you could change your perspective in that moment where it's like a holy conversation with your friend, but then to implement.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: It, it's a skill.
[00:31:20] Speaker A: That's the hard part. When you. Where you. Where you're in the moment and you're about. You're about to go down that dark hole, and then you have to go, no, switch. Now I got to do it. And it's a constant.
All right, I'm aware. I need to now take action.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: I. I think I've told you this before. You know I have ocd, right?
[00:31:38] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:31:38] Speaker B: So I did, like, two years of cbt.
[00:31:40] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:31:41] Speaker B: Cock and ball torture. No, Cognitive behavior. I think I did. I did two years of cognitive behavioral therapy. And that's something that, like, I did that. And then I did this other thing.
It was like an auditory therapy, but something that the both of them were talking about when I was doing them, was talking about. About being able to, like, talk to, like.
Like assigning names to, like, you know, feelings and to, like, not voices, but, you know, I'm saying, like, different feelings and different. Different emotions and being able to talk to those things and being like, you know, let's. Let's put a pause on these feelings here and evaluate things and being able to, like, when you. When you can assign a name and a face to, like, an emotion.
[00:32:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: It's incredibly empowering, and it gives you.
Again, it's not every single time, but it helps you either when you're angry or you feel overwhelmed or you're scared or you're like. Like inconsolable.
[00:32:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:35] Speaker B: When you can look at that and be like, yo, Jeff, what can I offer you right now? What can I offer you later?
[00:32:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: So we can kind of get through this moment at, like, the. At the. At the caliber of human we need to be. Yeah. And then I'll give you the time to color or scream in the car later. You know, I mean. Yeah, it's weird. I know it sounds crazy, but it's like when you can find a way to have that conversation internally, within yourself, in the moment. And that's something I still have trouble with, but it's something that has helped me immensely get through my life. So I don't know. And again, life. Life is a marathon. You're always trying to get better at this shit. It's not going to change overnight. But having strategies and stuff like that to Be able to, like, help you step outside of yourself, step out of the moment, and even step outside of the current perspective you have. It's incredibly freeing, bro.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: It's very freeing, but most people don't want to. Most people are very complacent with where they're at. They don't think they could change. They don't want to change.
And I've. I have given up on trying to help people who. Who have no interest in changing. It's like, you know, like. Not that I'm helping people, like, you know, I'm saying, but like, someone who's bitching and moaning, I'll give them my two cents and go, hey, man, maybe you got to do this. Maybe you got to do that. This, this, and that. And then if I hear the same conversation over and over, I just go, I'm not gonna say anything. I'll just listen, bro.
[00:33:56] Speaker B: I got a friend of mine who was a marine that I met in college. Okay. Right. And he used to tell me he's about 2 years old. I am.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:03] Speaker B: He used to tell me all the time. He's like, when you get to, like, a certain age, canceling plans is like heroin.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: And it is.
[00:34:10] Speaker B: And then we were taught we were having the same conversation later on. We were talking about the exact same thing that you just said. Being upset is just like heroin, too, bro.
[00:34:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:19] Speaker B: There's people who are addicted to feeling like.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:34:22] Speaker B: And addicted to complaining.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: I used to be like that. A very. I like the feeling of. I. I get a feeling sad. Makes me feel alive.
And I.
[00:34:30] Speaker B: It's a very strong emotion.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: It is grounding as it really is. And it makes you. You know, it makes. There's. There's certain.
I. I really fed off of it for. For many years of my life. And then only in the last couple have I. And I did it when I was sober. I felt like, okay. Oh, you know, work through it.
[00:34:47] Speaker B: You need.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: Now I'm drinking again. And I've worked through it.
It's just a matter of allowing yourself to be enough, I think. You know what I mean? Allowing yourself to just be like anything else. Most of the things that are making us sad aren't even happening. You know what I mean? They're either past.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:07] Speaker A: Or it's like, in that moment, your dear. Suffering is like Marcus Aurelius is. The stoicism where it's like, most of your suffering is. Is imaginary.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: Yeah. I was gonna say. I feel like I read this somewhere, and I'm sure somebody's gonna fact check Me, if this is incorrect, I, in my own personal experience, definitely feels true, but it might not be true. I read somewhere that, like, your brain can't distinguish, like, imaginary scenarios from, like, reality. Oh. I believe that when it comes to, like, experiencing emotion.
[00:35:37] Speaker A: Oh, dude, I don't. Like.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: Yeah, if you have any arguments with yourself, you're gonna get amped up. You're gonna get pissed off. You're gonna. If you're, like, imagining, like, oh, my God, there's like, a killer, you're gonna be scared, you know? I mean, like, yeah, obviously you can be fucking. Yeah, no shit, J.
No shit, you fucking idiot.
They're giving this guy a talk show.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: Well, you gave yourself a talk.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm they.
[00:36:02] Speaker A: But, yeah, man, my name is the deep state.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: I use they, them, pronouns.
[00:36:06] Speaker A: The deep state.
Do you think that there's someone behind the scenes that is just dying, like, someone in this country who runs things that is purposely wanting America to fail?
[00:36:15] Speaker B: I think it's. I think it's a team effort.
[00:36:18] Speaker A: I don't mean one. I mean, like, if there's a group of people. You believe that?
I. I do. Honestly, I. I feel like it now more than ever, and it's very conspiratorial, and people think. I don't even know if that's a word, but people think I'm crazy. But I do think it.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: I don't know that America. You mean in terms of, like, the constitutional republic, like, the government that we.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: Have, and, like, yeah, there's something higher than that that's just like. That have their hands and everything that are like, oh, this is gonna fail, but we're gonna make so much money.
[00:36:46] Speaker B: We want. I think that's been the case with everything, but that was the case with Rome. You know what I mean? That was like.
That's always the case of every one of, like, insert the most powerful nation ever, and there's always a back room of shit going down. And for a long time, I was like, oh, it's the CIA. Oh, it's the billionaires. You know, it's. It's.
It's whoever. And it's.
At the end of the day, bro, people are people. That's kind of my philosophy. I'm not the smartest guy I know. And I know for a fact that those guys who run the show probably aren't the smartest guys that they know. They're probably smart as fuck. They got all infinite amount of resources you can control. But everybody. Everybody blunders. You know what I mean? Everybody is a human Being.
And I have no doubt in my mind that we are probably, you know, whoever they is.
I tend to believe that it's just, you know, the money, have, the haves versus the have nots. You know, I mean, people trip up eventually.
[00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, dude, I mean, that's a great point with Rome.
[00:37:53] Speaker B: Like, this is Rome, bro.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: At some point, this will crumble.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: Well, do. They built this place, you know, everything from the eagle to the standards to the Senate, you know what I mean? It's fucking. They wanted this to be the new Roman Republic, and it is.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: It's better.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: It is, bro. We fucking. Absolutely.
[00:38:12] Speaker A: We killed it.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: But it must the same way that, you know, Rome had their equestrians and, you know, the higher class, the aristocracy that was supposed to be the Senate and the people of Rome. And you very much just started to see it towards, like, the decline before they got Caesar in there.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: You got.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: You saw these people take over and get very much like, well, we have to do things, you know, very utilitarian, in a negative way. Like, we're gonna do whatever we think is necessary.
[00:38:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: To protect the nation.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: And again, man, anytime.
Anytime you have a group of people acting on behalf of a larger group of people, there's always gonna be some fudging of numbers. There's always gonna be, like, not. It's impossible for all those people to. All of them to truly have all of our best interests in mind.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: They don't.
[00:39:04] Speaker B: I can't. They can't. On principle. They're running a company. This is a very big fucking.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: The biggest company.
[00:39:11] Speaker B: It's the best. The biggest and the best company in the world. We're gonna be doing America better than ever before. Really.
[00:39:18] Speaker A: It's. It's crazy, dude.
It's.
And it's.
[00:39:23] Speaker B: We're all.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: We're. I think we're at the halfway point of America crumbling.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: I think we're like. Like, this is where we are. I think, like, next year's 250, bro.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: 252.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: Next year's 250 years. This.
[00:39:38] Speaker A: I know. I think. I think we got another hundred years.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: You think so?
[00:39:41] Speaker A: Yeah. It's not gonna be a good hundred.
[00:39:43] Speaker B: I give a seven.
[00:39:45] Speaker A: Seven. What, are you fucking nuts?
[00:39:47] Speaker B: No, I just don't think that the.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: Amount AI, you're saying is, like, because of AI, are you saying just.
[00:39:51] Speaker B: I think that there's a bunch of factors that are. That are kind of crumb. Like, kind of glaring right now in my mind's eye.
[00:39:58] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:39:58] Speaker B: And I don't think that the America that we know and love is that America anymore. And I think that that's now going to become apparent to the public for maybe another year, another two years, maybe another three years. Yeah, maybe five years. But the minute that it does, bro, is game over.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: So what do you think is going to happen?
You think people are going to be like burning buildings down? I don't.
[00:40:28] Speaker B: I don't know. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, bro, the fucking government, we're going to. We don't even know what's going to happen on Tuesday. Their vote. For those of you who don't know, I don't. They're voting to release the Epstein files, whether or not do it. And can you imagine what's going to happen if more senators vote to not release the pedophile list? Then more senators then, then do what.
[00:40:50] Speaker A: Do you think people are gonna take to the streets?
[00:40:52] Speaker B: I don't know, bro. I know. I know for a fact that somebody's gonna get bold in my not, and it's not me. I'm not saying that that's not a threat, by the way. I need to be very clear. I'm just saying that in my heart of hearts I could see if somebody has the gall to go out and shoot a dude who's, you know, a fucking not like really like Charlie Kirk and the grander scheme of politics. Nobody, you could say. Like, you know, he was influencing young.
[00:41:16] Speaker A: People, but he was a nobody.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: But he's not a fucking Mitch McCon or something like that. You know what I mean? He's, he doesn't have any legislative authority.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: If some, if there are four, 500 something senators.
[00:41:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:30] Speaker B: And the majority of them vote not to keep the pedophile list a secret.
[00:41:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:36] Speaker B: You don't think citizens are gonna have a problem with that? You don't think like the crazy members of our society who are like, don't have a lot going for them that maybe don't have the same support system that you and I have, that don't have a community like we do with comedy. Maybe they don't have a good family life, but they got a gun.
You don't think there's a chance that something like that happens?
[00:41:53] Speaker A: I think there's definitely a chance, but I think that majority of people. I'll say maybe there's 10% of people that are. That could do that.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: I would say it's maybe 3 or 4%.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: Even better. Okay, perfect. And I think that. But I think majority of people are just really trying to survive.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: I agree with you 100%.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: And they're not as concerned. Like, sure, the Epstein files are important, but more importantly is getting their kids to school on time and going to work. And I don't think people are personally, My. My take on the epine thing, I couldn't give a fuck, really, because I know everyone in power was at that fucking island.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: I.
[00:42:29] Speaker A: Listen, I know I don't need to see the.
[00:42:31] Speaker B: In my heart of hearts and in your heart of hearts, we are in agreement 100%. And in my eyes, anybody who votes against it either was there or is protecting somebody, they know who was. And that, in my mind, that's the same level. That's caliber.
[00:42:46] Speaker A: Not in the slightest.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: Same caliber of evil. Now, I think where you and I differ is that.
And I actually. I see where you're coming from here because it's like to have, you know, when you want to go, you want to accept 100% responsibility for your own life in that sense, you know what I mean? And be present and be here. But I do believe that to a certain extent, it becomes.
They said in the Declaration of Independence, when in the course of human events, it becomes clear there's some fuck. Shit is happening. Yeah, of course it falls upon the people. The people.
[00:43:20] Speaker A: Right.
[00:43:21] Speaker B: And that. And again, I don't think that means go out and be violent. And I'm praying every. I pray every day that people don't go out and be violent every day of my life. Because at the end of the day, there's nothing more powerful than words. Yeah, that's why I'm doing this. That's why I'm not, like, signed up to be fighting a war somewhere, you know, I mean, and. And I do happen to believe, though, like I said, I think you're right.
97, 98, 99% of Americans are getting by day by day. They want to feed their kids. They want to see their children get a beautiful education. They want to see them get a beautiful. A beautiful life, you know, eat beef. Eat beautiful American beef and beautiful. Drink beautiful coffee, and they want to see them have, you know, be happy and do shit.
But there's people out there that got nothing, bro.
[00:44:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:08] Speaker B: And they project and they get worse and they get motivated to do crazy fucking things. Like that guy who, you know, had a beautiful girlfriend with a penis.
He had a beautiful girlfriend with a penis. And he went on the roof and he went, pew, pew. And we lost beautiful Charlie. We lost beautiful Charlie. Was so good. So good to us. And Candace. Candace Owens fallen so far, Candace, maybe Because Charlie is dead, that's why. But I don't know, I think that it doesn't take that much to push a person who doesn't have a whole lot. And in my mind's eye, what that's more indicative of is the fact that our country's not doing a good job of taking care of the people here. I know, and I think that if it was, we would, we wouldn't have that problem. But at the same time, bro, voting no. 1 on releasing the pedophile documents, that in my mind's eye is a big problem because that directly tells the American people, fuck you.
[00:45:07] Speaker A: Okay, so here's the other thing. Let's, let's, let's play a game. If, if it gets released and everyone sees who's there.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: Then what?
[00:45:14] Speaker B: I think the exact same thing is going.
I know, listen. And you're hunch saying you're a hundred.
[00:45:22] Speaker A: Either to hide it.
[00:45:23] Speaker B: Oh my God. Well, no, but I'm with you. These people are going to be.
[00:45:27] Speaker A: You find out that everyone, Bill Gates Trump everyone's kids, which.
[00:45:32] Speaker B: And the other thing is there may.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: Have been people who went to that aisle and I'm giving people, I'm playing devil's advocate here. People who may have went there and when it's like, oh, I don't want anything to do with that, but this is. I, you know, I'm part of the 1%. I'm hanging out, you know, quote Danny.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: DeVito, they went there for the snorkeling. Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm.
[00:45:47] Speaker A: Yes, yeah, we'll say that. You know, I might in my, my critical thinking side of my brain goes, no one went there for anything other than that. But I gotta go. I, Maybe they did. You know, it's part of being, I guess maybe a comic or just a normal person. Now that's my thing of like, what's.
[00:46:02] Speaker B: What good.
[00:46:03] Speaker A: I mean, obviously the people have a right to know.
But I also just go like, everyone's like, I want to know who's on that list. And I'm like, you know, who's on that list already? You know, but this is the thing.
[00:46:14] Speaker B: If we, I mean, I could be like, Harrison Marks is on the Epstein list. He was fully flied 37 times to the island. And that's not true. You and I both know that's not true.
[00:46:23] Speaker A: Well, you know what the best part about that is? The only person that needs to know if it's true or not is me.
[00:46:27] Speaker B: That's no 100%. Yeah, but the difference is you're not writing legislature. You're right.
[00:46:31] Speaker A: Which is why it doesn't matter if I was there or not. I'm saying 100%.
[00:46:35] Speaker B: But again, it's. That's where my mind is at. Is that like, I think the government, where we are right now, there's so much that people, I mean, dude, they're kicking fucking doors open and dragging kids out of the.
[00:46:49] Speaker A: I'm like, I think that we went very way too far in the other direction with that.
[00:46:54] Speaker B: But that's the thing, is the pendulum is going to keep swinging like this.
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:57] Speaker B: And as long as, you know, the gentry, the lower classes like you and I are focused on Republican or Democrat, immigrant born, naturalized citizen, black, white, you know, we're going to be divided, of course. And I think that the main thing that kind of unites us all as people, you know, we're all Americans, we're all here. We all believe that every human being here has a right to earn a living.
[00:47:27] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:47:28] Speaker B: Has a right to pursue an education.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: Speak their mind and speak their mind.
[00:47:31] Speaker B: And when you have those, you know, guaranteed rights that are guaranteed to us in the Bill of Rights by our Constitution, we want to see those things be insured for all people. Yeah.
And you know, I just, I really, I know it's not a good scenario. Who knows? It might come out. Hey, by the way. No, no, nobody's a pedophile. Nobody's a pedophile.
[00:47:54] Speaker A: Best case scenario, if that came out, I'd go, that's, that's.
[00:47:57] Speaker B: Then it really was everybody. That's how I know. Oh my God. It was everybody.
[00:48:00] Speaker A: That's the thing.
[00:48:01] Speaker B: But I just.
This is the thing that like think everybody can agree upon is a bad fucking thing.
[00:48:12] Speaker A: Without a doubt. It's the worst thing you could do. And aside from, I mean, I think doing that is worse than killing people.
Yeah.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: Children. Are you fucking kidding me?
100% it is.
And, and we, I just think collectively we need transparency. And I don't think that we. Anybody. I don't think there needs to be blood. I don't think it needs to be anything than that other than like these people are like, are bad, you know, and yes, very much. You're bad.
And, you know, we'll see if the American system is on the American people's side because those people will go to jail.
That's it.
[00:48:49] Speaker A: And when they go to jail, who runs shit?
[00:48:52] Speaker B: I don't know. Do you think that there's like a picking or like a pecking order, like one of the senators who maybe, like, killed somebody. Like, you know what we do to pedophiles in prison? You know what I mean?
That would be funny.
[00:49:04] Speaker A: That would be really funny.
[00:49:07] Speaker B: Like, they're just a white collar jail, and it's like Diddy is like, you know what we do to pedophiles in prison?
[00:49:12] Speaker A: Well, it turns out Diddy wasn't a pedophile.
[00:49:14] Speaker B: Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, he just was a.
[00:49:17] Speaker A: He was just weirdo.
[00:49:18] Speaker B: He was just a absolute.
[00:49:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, he hit women, which was not okay. That I didn't like. But him wanting to have orgies, there's nothing that's not, you know, whatever.
[00:49:26] Speaker B: The problem is this. If it comes out that, like, did you hear about the Bubba thing or. No. With Trump. You didn't hear about this?
[00:49:32] Speaker A: Bubba, no.
[00:49:32] Speaker B: Oh, my God. So allegedly, Trump blew Bill Clinton. That's one of the.
[00:49:36] Speaker A: Oh, I did hear.
[00:49:37] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: I saw a meme the other day.
[00:49:38] Speaker B: So, like, that's what I think is gonna be crazy. It's like, if these things come out and that Trump wasn't, you know, doing like, the child sex parties, but he was just going to sex parties. There's a chance. We hear the president go like, there's nothing wrong with an orgy. Honestly, we could have presidential orgies. I'm gonna pardon.
If I put another President Peters in my mouth. That, quite frankly, is the most American blowjob in the history of America. Honestly, we should be supporting. I should be getting a standing ovation for doing that. I. I serve as the president.
[00:50:06] Speaker A: I don't think.
If I found out Trump blew Clinton, I wouldn't care. I really.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Dad's upset about it. He's like, there's no way. I'm like.
[00:50:15] Speaker A: I mean, I'm like, what?
[00:50:17] Speaker B: Why not?
[00:50:17] Speaker A: It's possible.
[00:50:18] Speaker B: Why not?
[00:50:18] Speaker A: Dude, here's the thing. This is. This is the part that drives me crazy. Why not? Things have gotten so insane.
[00:50:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:25] Speaker A: That, like, I'm hearing this and I go, okay, Is there anything illegal about blowing a guy?
[00:50:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:31] Speaker A: No, No. I don't care about this. You know what I mean? Like, it's just another thing to, like, for people to talk about. By the way, you know, they could have ended up putting that rumor out there to divert everyone from thinking about the list of let's. You know what?
[00:50:41] Speaker B: I'm just going to say I called it, by the way, with my gay trumpet. I fucking called this.
[00:50:46] Speaker A: Yes, you did. You did. I remember that. That was actually very funny.
[00:50:49] Speaker B: It was. I called this shit.
[00:50:51] Speaker A: But, like, that's the thing like, it. That could have been a rumor that, like, Trump could go, you know, let's put that out there. Let them talk about me blowing Clinton. That's way better than me fucking kids.
The government could. You know what I'm saying? Like, we. There's so much shit where I'm like, I can't. All right, if he blew him, fine, whatever. I don't care. I don't care.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: I think at the end of the day. You know what it is, Harrison, to answer your question, like, what's the best case scenario? Here we are between this, between the metaverse shit, between, like, all of the AI stuff.
[00:51:21] Speaker A: Also aliens. Like, we're like, they're here, bro.
[00:51:24] Speaker B: We are all living in our own separate reality circles.
[00:51:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:28] Speaker B: We're all within our own kind of matrix, and that's a terrifying prospect that there's no unified.
[00:51:34] Speaker A: And we have a second matrix, which is right there. That fucking phone.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: Hi. But that's the crazy thing, man, is we literally. We literally have kind of sucked ourselves out of reality willingly. You know what I mean?
[00:51:46] Speaker A: I don't think we want it. We don't want to live.
[00:51:47] Speaker B: We've got the fucking SOMA device. You know what I mean? That's. It's. It's crazy. We've kind of delusion, you know, become disillusioned to the realities of the world. If you want to spiral and you want to get stuck in, like, a thought vacuum of negativity, you can do that. If you want to believe everything is a hunky dory and. Okay, you can do that. You want to believe that Trump is, like, curing cancer, go.
[00:52:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:09] Speaker B: Anybody can believe anything they want to. And there is a plan. Plethora of evidence, be it fabricated or legitimate, that will support your claim.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:16] Speaker B: And it doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't have to be real or fake, because at the end of the day, it's just a matter. People are gonna choose to live in the reality they want to live in anyway, 100%.
So, I mean, in much the same way that, like, we were just saying, you know, we all know who's on that fucking list. Yeah. And. And at the end of the day, they're gonna live in a reality that they didn't, or at least propose that there's a reality that they didn't.
We're gonna believe in the reality that they did.
[00:52:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:47] Speaker B: And we're gonna be here in the reality where we think, you know. You know, it is what it is. I'm gonna go to the fucking open mic on my. I'm, you know, it's like we gotta, I, I'm just praying that Americans can get to a point where we get to an agreed upon reality. We're like, hey, a human being is a human being.
Let's just try and look out for each other as opposed to like we, you know, villainizing everybody else. Pedophiles. Those people should be villain.
[00:53:14] Speaker A: Yeah. They should be shot.
[00:53:15] Speaker B: Other than them.
[00:53:17] Speaker A: Yeah, man. I don't, I agree, I agree. And I think that we're all going to do what we want to do. And I, I, I keep talking about this a lot and I said it on plenty of other episodes where things don't feel. And this is a.
Probably a psychoanalyst would look at me and go, that's probably this dangerous. But things don't feel real to me sometimes.
[00:53:40] Speaker B: No, I get that 100.
[00:53:42] Speaker A: I, I'm like, I look and I go, like the idea. I, I know that if I lay down in front of a car, I'll die. But it all like, you know what I mean? There's certain things where I'm just like, I. Nothing feels real. This doesn't feel like I, I almost feel like if I do that and this is gonna sound crazy and I'm not suicidal, it's gonna.
[00:53:58] Speaker B: Stop the car.
[00:54:00] Speaker A: No, I'll wake up.
Does that make any sense? Like if I lay down in front of a car, I'll wake up and see what. I'm curious to know what the fuck all this is. You know what I mean? I'm not curious enough to go kill myself. I'll find out when I die. Whenever that day may be. Knock on wood. But there's a part of me that's like this, this can't be.
Like, this is not. There's something else. You know what I mean? I almost feel I'm not. Simulation theory. I'm really not.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: Not you're describing is the concept of Gnosticism, my friend.
[00:54:28] Speaker A: The fuck is that?
[00:54:29] Speaker B: It's the belief that this is. You ever see the movie the Matrix?
[00:54:32] Speaker A: Yeah, of course.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: That's it. Kind of. So that's like the earliest form of what Christianity was, was the belief that Jesus was coming here, telling us that essentially this world is fake.
[00:54:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:43] Speaker B: Heaven is like the mental. Like it's the elevated plane of existence. Yeah, Right. And what, what we see and do and experience here, all cockamamie poopoo.
[00:54:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:57] Speaker B: And that there's this entity that's trying to make us, you know, interpret this world of suffering.
[00:55:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:05] Speaker B: As reality.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:07] Speaker B: And the transcendence of that is the achieving of gnosis, which is knowledge and transcending. And I, that's not what I prescribe to myself. But, like, what you're describing is by definition the first step in that.
[00:55:24] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I'm still a Jew, though, so. I don't believe in the afterlife. I don't believe, not the afterlife. I don't believe. It's not in a religious way. You know what I'm saying?
[00:55:31] Speaker B: It's not, it's not an afterlife. It's different.
It's not like going to heaven. It's like there's something else you got.
[00:55:38] Speaker A: To unplug kind of that's. And, but the thing is, I also really do love it here. Like, I go, it's fantastic. It's really great. Like, I got, I've been getting hug high and smoking weed every day lately, and I was just looking out the window.
[00:55:51] Speaker B: No, I thought you were gesturing to a ball.
[00:55:54] Speaker A: No, I just to the universe. I've been getting high and when I get stoned now, I think about, I go, oh, I'm going to die one day. I better really make this worth it. And then I listen to music and I go, that's the fact. We got this. Like, I'm listening to the Beatles right now.
[00:56:07] Speaker B: This is crazy. It's pretty wild, man.
[00:56:08] Speaker A: It's crazy. And so, like, I have those thoughts of, like, none of this is real. And then I have thoughts of, like, I really do love it here. So, like, I'm in a.
There's I got one foot in and one foot out kind of thing, but it's a strange way to feel. And I don't know when I started feeling that way. Does that make any sense?
[00:56:25] Speaker B: I 100% understand, empathize.
[00:56:28] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm not crazy. Like, I don't think you're crazy.
[00:56:31] Speaker B: I, I've been there. I, I, I 100% understand what the you're saying.
[00:56:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:37] Speaker B: And I don't think you're crazy.
[00:56:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:56:38] Speaker B: Because we live in this most insane version of reality possible.
[00:56:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: There's a chance that the president gave another president a blowjob.
[00:56:45] Speaker A: Like, pretty crazy.
[00:56:46] Speaker B: Like, there's a fucking, like, the amount of. When you look into all of this, bro, none of it makes sense. And I'm not just talking about that. I'm talking about, like, we could just be anywhere we want on a fucking train. And, like, we're in that timeline anywhere in New York, and, you know, we happen to be here. Like, this is the center of the fucking universe.
[00:57:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:06] Speaker B: It feels like about New York City.
[00:57:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:08] Speaker B: You know, I mean, there's people who live, are, are born, live in and die in like Kansas.
[00:57:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is crazy to me.
[00:57:15] Speaker B: And Montana and Wyoming.
[00:57:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:18] Speaker B: It's like, what the fuck? They don't even like, oh, I want to go to New York someday. You were born there.
[00:57:23] Speaker A: I know I'm very lucky.
[00:57:26] Speaker B: So, you know, 100%. It makes fucking like, why here? Why were you born here? Why weren't you born over there? You know, I mean, it's, it's fucking weird, man. I don't, I don't disparage you at all for feeling that way. And I don't think that, like, you know, I think, to be quite frank, I think it's a completely legitimate experience that you're going through.
The thing that I think scares me not about that is the fact that you could be right.
We don't know.
[00:58:05] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't. The only way, you only know after you die, and no one knows after that, what happens.
[00:58:09] Speaker B: You know, we can go through the day and be completely human and, you know, wash our hands and, and jerk off and go to work and listen to the Beatles, write jokes, go do stand up set, you know, do a nine to five, clean carpets, go work for a bank.
And like, that's just a day.
But we'll do that for What? How? Like 50 years. And then, and then you might die and like, there's like a green glowing pig that's like, you fucking idiot, dude. Okay, well, you did it. You should have got, you didn't go to Montana. You supposed to be Montana there. You fucking, you fucking idiot. You went, you went to the bank like, oh my God. No, but like, there's no way to know whether or not we're, you know, forget about this being the right reality. You make the right decision every day.
[00:58:56] Speaker A: No, you don't know. You just gotta know.
[00:58:58] Speaker B: Fucking clue.
[00:58:58] Speaker A: I've, I've gotten way more in tune with like, the gut.
[00:59:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:59:01] Speaker A: The instincts of just say, all right, this feels right, 100%, you know, so.
[00:59:06] Speaker B: I got, that's, that's kind of where my head is at with this shit. It's like at the end of the day, all you can do is what you think is the right thing.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: That's it, man. Make the right move, be a good person, be kind. And that's, that's how what I, that's all I subscribe to. That's, that's it.
[00:59:21] Speaker B: You know, I, I, there's times That I hear people be like, oh, yeah, but like, if you live like, you know, if you like just, if you live like a boring life, it's like a decent person or whatever, like, nice guys finish last. It's like something I hear constantly. It's like, it's like, you're gonna be dead and dust too someday, bro. What does it fucking matter?
[00:59:36] Speaker A: Like, I want to be able to live with myself. And there's certain things I can. That there's certain things that I could do that I could live with that other people would go, no, I can never do that. I can't live with that. So, like, it, maybe it make me a bad person, but my definition of a good person is how I operate.
[00:59:49] Speaker B: So if you.
This is the one as of right now that we know of. This is the one thing we know for a fact is that this is the life you're living.
[00:59:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:58] Speaker B: We don't know if there's going to be enough. There might be Buddhists might have gotten it right, but like, they're, they're.
[01:00:03] Speaker A: We don't know.
[01:00:04] Speaker B: So I forget who said it.
I'm dumb.
Somebody said, like, live as if God is real. Live as if, like, there's a concept.
[01:00:13] Speaker A: Of someone looking out.
[01:00:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, not even just that. Like there's a concept of like good and evil and like that there is a concept of like heaven and hell. Because, like, the worst case scenario that if you don't, you go to hell.
[01:00:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:25] Speaker B: The best case scenario is that, you know, like, the best case scenario is that if you're a good person, you, you know, you go to heaven or if you're a good person and there's no such thing as Evan youn just were just a good dude.
[01:00:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:00:35] Speaker B: Dude.
[01:00:36] Speaker A: Forgot who said that. I heard that before.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: There's no after cost benefit analysis. There's no, there's no negative side to being a good person.
[01:00:43] Speaker A: No, it's never, it's always good.
[01:00:46] Speaker B: So. Yeah.
And if you're being a good person.
[01:00:49] Speaker A: What, what time you got?
[01:00:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it's 108.
[01:00:52] Speaker A: Okay, perfect.
You let me know whenever. I mean, I, you want a couple minutes? We'll finish this up.
[01:00:58] Speaker B: Yeah, we can do like another 10 minutes. Is that school? Yeah. Cool. Yeah.
But, yeah, I, I, I love talking about like the philosophical shit with you.
I. And I like that. I mean, I always love watching the clips of like, you and the other guys, like, joking around. I'm like, damn, bro. Like, I feel like, I feel like I, I want to do that shit more but then I, that the topics I always end up talking about are like, so what do you think about like the cosmic spider? You know?
Like what do you. I don't know. I, I, I like was chronically for a very long time looking for answers for shit.
[01:01:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:32] Speaker B: And that's just like a, it's a.
[01:01:33] Speaker A: Failed, there's no, no, dude, you can't. I used to do that too.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: And you know, obviously I, I am always.
Instead of that, I've decided like this year especially just be open minded about stuff.
[01:01:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:45] Speaker B: Constantly be exploring places, things less judgmental. 100% man. And life's so much more fun since I started doing that, bro.
[01:01:53] Speaker A: It's, it's really exciting, dude. And I know a lot of people who are judgmental and they are closed off and I go, their world is this fucking pinhole. Yeah. And, and it's like, yo, life is. Who knows where you're gonna end up by saying, yeah, fuck it, I'll go. You know, and that's the thing with cancel. You're talking about canceling plans being like heroin.
I don't do that nearly as much as I used to because I go, this could be the best night of my life, could be the worst. But I gotta find out.
[01:02:16] Speaker B: Well, dude, I'll tell you straight up, man. Like when I graduated college, I moved back home. Yeah. I wasn't in the city and I was, you know, focusing on getting, you know, a job and some stand up shit. You know, I was, I was gonna be working at Late Night with Seth Meyers for like a little bit longer than originally planned. I was gonna be there through like the fall.
[01:02:35] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:02:36] Speaker B: And then the writer strike happened while like I was still there and I lost that job. So, you know, I ended up having to go to another industry and like that.
And I was just constantly down on myself.
[01:02:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:49] Speaker B: And as a result of that, you know, I was just canceling plans or not showing up to with my friends and you know, I'm sure that my relationships with some of them aren't as strong as they could be right now because of me saying no to stuff and not wanting or making plans and then canceling them just because I didn't want to travel to the city.
[01:03:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:07] Speaker B: Because I didn't live there anymore. It made me sad.
But now I know that like the, if you put the effort in, bro.
[01:03:15] Speaker A: It goes, it goes always, always, always you, what you put in, you get out. It's just, it's, it's a fucking mathematical equation.
And I, and anyone who's like. And I.
[01:03:25] Speaker B: It.
[01:03:26] Speaker A: I learned it with Stand up.
Like, yo, I started this a couple years ago, and I look and I go, wow, I got a lot better. Am I where I want to be? Absolutely not. But I go, oh, it's because I did this every single day for the last, you know, two years or so.
[01:03:41] Speaker B: 100, man. That is. Especially with art, dude. That is, like, the most concrete example of, like, improvement.
[01:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:48] Speaker B: I mean, when it. When it comes to perspective and, like, you know, cleaning up around the house or, like, you know, eating better, it's. You've noticed those, like, you're going to open up one day and then. And then, you know, open up that, you know. I don't know why I said open up. You're going to change to that habit, that good habit, and you're going to notice, like, one day, like, months or not, but. Oh, shit, you know what I mean? It's just going to be like, oh, there's a change.
But, like, with art, bro, you notice. I feel like, incrementally, every single step of growth.
[01:04:18] Speaker A: I think there's moments where you feel like you're not. And I feel like there's moments where you go, oh, shit. Wow. I did really well here.
[01:04:23] Speaker B: You like Kurt Vonnegut?
[01:04:25] Speaker A: I don't know. I know about him, but I don't read his stuff.
[01:04:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Slaughterhouse Five, like, Breakfast of Champions. He's. He always talked about, like, you know, everybody's always like, three art, three part story structure. Right. There's a beginning, middle, end.
[01:04:37] Speaker A: This is all over the place. Right.
[01:04:38] Speaker B: His is like. He talks about telling stories as, like, parabolas.
[01:04:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:42] Speaker B: He's like, life is a fucking series of parabolas of, like, up and down and up and down.
[01:04:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: Where you decide to start it. And that's just up to you.
[01:04:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:49] Speaker B: As a story. And I feel like that's.
To what you were saying earlier. I feel like that's a really fucking accurate description of being an artist is, like, constant.
[01:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah, there's no. There's no.
[01:05:01] Speaker B: Just everything. It's applicable to every single facet of life.
[01:05:03] Speaker A: I agree with that. I agree with that, man. And it's.
The more you do stuff like that, you know, you talk about being open. I think when. When you examine your life through that lens and you see yourself as an artist or whatever, that's when you have to be open. Otherwise you'd be a shit artist.
[01:05:21] Speaker B: Certainly, bro.
[01:05:22] Speaker A: You know?
[01:05:22] Speaker B: Certainly.
You know, I spent like, a lot of 20, 24 really fucking beating the pavement. Stand up wise yeah. And then started this past year, I was like, you know, I started doing, like, this SAT satirical pros type shit, and I fell in love with that, bro.
[01:05:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:37] Speaker B: Started focusing on that a little bit more. I was doing stand up, but not as much as I wanted to be doing it. And I tried to get. I got into a couple festivals this fall. I, you know, I made some progress, and I was happy to do it, and I made some cash. I got the chance to perform at a couple of clubs in Boston, which was sick.
[01:05:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:52] Speaker B: And then, you know, I just. I felt like I needed to change. I felt like I needed something that was like, a culmination of these things. And that's. That's kind of where the talk show came from, is that, like, I wanted to start a podcast. I wanted to do more of, like, the humor headline writing. I wanted to do, you know, stand up as well. And I found that that was. I want to do sketch. This was the culmination of all those things, man. And I think sometimes we don't realize we're working towards something until we get to, you know, you walk into it, you bang your fucking nose.
[01:06:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:27] Speaker B: Oh, shit. This is the thing. So I'm excited to do this.
This show for that reason, because it is a culmination of things I've been training myself to do for years now.
[01:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:36] Speaker B: And, you know, it could be a great time. It could be a failure, but I have faith in it, and I have faith in, you know, like we were saying, taking chances and trying new things. And so I'm excited to see where this. Where this goes, man.
[01:06:48] Speaker A: Well, it's one of those. That. That's that saying of, like, you know, failing at something is just as. I mean, it's as important as succeeding because you tried it. The only failure is you're not really failing. The only failure is not doing it.
You know, certainly if you. If it doesn't go as planned, you learn something and you go, okay, how can I make it better?
Some people allow it to destroy them and not get back up. And those people don't really want it. They just don't, you know, anyone who. Who, like, you know, you. You get fucking. You bomb at a club and you go, oh, my God. The. The real people who want to do this, who want it for a living will go, I'm gonna go find a spot to go do another. To do another 10 minutes or five minutes right now so I can redeem myself. The other. The people who don't want it will go, no, go get up again.
[01:07:37] Speaker B: Go.
[01:07:37] Speaker A: That was, it's otherwise I, and I know there are people I see in the scene, they go, they're going to be here. And then there are people I go, they're not 100%, you know, and, and you're one of those people.
And I don't know if it's going to be stand up. I mean, that's your, I mean, it's your path. I don't know what the way the you're going to be, but I do know that you will be successful.
[01:07:59] Speaker B: I appreciate that, man. Thank you very much. That means a lot.
[01:08:01] Speaker A: It's, it's. I've seen the way you work. You're. You're constantly doing something, whether it's stand up, writing, this late show, whatever it is.
I, I mean, I personally, in my head, I see you more as a writer than.
And like, maybe this is a bad example, but like a Judd Apatow, he does stand up once in a while. But his thing is he's a writer. He produces things, he makes shit, you know, And I, I've always said to people, I was like, whatever he does, he will get it done and we'll be successful at it. And I'm not telling you.
[01:08:30] Speaker B: I appreciate that, man.
[01:08:30] Speaker A: To jerk you off. It's, it's true.
[01:08:32] Speaker B: That seriously means a lot, Harrison. I know that you guys are gonna, you're gonna go far. I know, dude, this scene is filled with so many fucking talented people, man.
[01:08:39] Speaker A: Is a lot of people.
[01:08:40] Speaker B: You especially, Kevin, Corey, Mike, Steve. Yeah, Alec. Like, dude, it's iron sharpening iron constantly. And I hope, you know, I hope, I hope you're right. I, you know, I'd love to have see some success, man, but I think that when you are surrounding yourself as much the same way that you do, in much the same way that I try to as often as possible.
[01:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:02] Speaker B: When you surround yourself with other talented creative people, bro.
[01:09:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:06] Speaker B: The fucking sky is the limit.
[01:09:08] Speaker A: 100%. And that's where they. What you put in, in getting out.
[01:09:11] Speaker B: Comes in hundred percent.
[01:09:12] Speaker A: You know, you're constant putting in. It just. It's only a matter of time. It may take five years, it may take 20, it may take 30. But as long as you keep doing it, it will happen.
[01:09:22] Speaker B: I agree.
[01:09:23] Speaker A: You know, as long as you don't get hit by a car, 100%.
[01:09:26] Speaker B: But anyway.
Yeah.
[01:09:28] Speaker A: You're a good man, Jay.
[01:09:29] Speaker B: You're a good man too, Harrison.
[01:09:30] Speaker A: Dude, it's good to see you, bro. I haven't seen you in a long time.
[01:09:33] Speaker B: I, I'm hopefully I'll see you this week. Let me know what you're doing. I'll go to Judy's on Wednesday.
[01:09:36] Speaker A: I, I haven't been there because my work schedule, so getting there that early just, I, I can't do it.
But I will try this week. If, if it's a light day, I will try to get.
[01:09:46] Speaker B: I would love to see you.
[01:09:46] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: Can I give the audience my prediction, Happen to America.
[01:09:50] Speaker A: Give the predictions of what's going to happen to America. Following that, the date of the show again.
Any other things you want to plug and your social media, all that stuff.
Writing stuff. Yeah.
[01:10:01] Speaker B: Follow me anywhere and everywhere. YouTube, Instagram, TikTok.
The real J servidea. That's J A Y S E R V E D I O Follow me on Substack Video. I have a very funny satirical blog that I put out some funny pieces out and some short stories on. It's called, it's called Ramblin Mind. It's on Substack.
The show is at Caveat in the Lower east side of Manhattan. November 22, 4pm is the only late night show that leaves your evening open.
It's called on the Watch List with Jason Video.
And my prediction for America is that everything is going to be okay.
[01:10:44] Speaker A: I'm with him on that.
[01:10:45] Speaker B: It's gonna be.
[01:10:46] Speaker A: We're gonna be okay.
[01:10:47] Speaker B: It's gonna be just fine.
[01:10:49] Speaker A: That's not convincing.
[01:10:52] Speaker B: But if you're concerned, get some property in Costa rica. It's about $50,000 for six acres.
[01:10:58] Speaker A: Yeah, Costa Rica is good. I've been to Costa Rica.
[01:11:00] Speaker B: I love it. Beautiful. Yeah, it's beautiful. ATVing is great. It's a wonderful sport. And you can walk around with a machete. Why wouldn't you? You know what I'm saying?
[01:11:07] Speaker A: I mean, you could do that in Manhattan too.
[01:11:10] Speaker B: I know.
I see it weekly. I see it weekly.
[01:11:14] Speaker A: Anyway, yo, thank you. Bye, guys.