Episode Transcript
[00:00:05] Speaker A: We're back. We got Nico De Gallo. He's. He's a comic. Very good friend.
Someone I met and we met, like, what, maybe like a year ago or something?
[00:00:13] Speaker B: Yeah, almost. Yeah, I think definitely a year ago now.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: Yeah, he's. He's a fucking. Just a wonderful guy, fellow New Yorker. And, you know, I mean, we were talking. Let's just jump into what we were talking about. Yeah, we were. We were going on about, like, the idea of, like, do we need the trauma, like, of New York City in our lives? I do think that's like. Like running back to a toxic relationship.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I feel like.
Because you were born in Brooklyn, right?
[00:00:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: And you're cute. Guard.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: I'm Queens. Yeah. I'm a queen's kid. So it's like pretty tame, calm environments compared to, like, Manhattan, you would say, right?
[00:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:46] Speaker B: Like, if you lived in, like, the Midwest or Kansas or whatever it is. Right. Completely different.
[00:00:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:00:51] Speaker B: But I do think that we're just addicted to the stimulation, whether it's the sirens or just someone yelling at us. I feel like if someone yells at me, once I leave this house of yours, I'm gonna be like, all right, I'm still in New York, you know, I mean, like, if someone's waving at me in the streets of New York City, I'm like, I'm about to get mugged.
[00:01:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: You know, I mean, like, that's something. I. I don't. I don't want that. I spit at me.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: No, you want, like.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: I'm totally fine with you spitting at me or calling me like that. The best part is when you have, like, someone. Especially, like, where I grew up, I grew up around, like, a bunch of, like, Russians and stuff. The best is when they curse you out in their language and you're like, I don't know, but I respect that.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, I like that. I. I don't need to know what you're saying. I know what you're saying, and that's okay.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: But you know what? I, you know, it's actually like, that is the. The most wild place. I was at the 8th Avenue yesterday. 8th Avenue and 30th.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Where the new Buddha spot is.
[00:01:46] Speaker B: The Buddha Room by the garden. Right.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: Sort of right next to.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: I want to check that out. I've been seeing the pictures. Is it nice?
[00:01:52] Speaker A: It's a cool vibe. It's still, like, figuring itself out. I. I'm. I'm digging it, cuz it's a fun little clubhouse.
[00:01:58] Speaker B: I saw your videos that you posted. It looks fun.
[00:02:00] Speaker A: It's. It's a fun spot. It's getting there.
But the outside is like 1970s New York, dude. Like. Like there is the amount of homeless and crackheads. It's not just one, it's not just two. They outnumber the normal people outside the, like, on the street, and you got to be on your toes.
[00:02:20] Speaker B: That's what I like, though.
[00:02:21] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: It's kind of. That's.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Isn't that.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: Isn't that weird that we both like.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: I kind of like that it makes you. It's. That is a. A authentic New York experience.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: That's bad for us.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: It's not good for the city, but it's good for people who come here and they think that it's still just this jolly candy land.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: Just you saying that makes me really want to just walk by there today.
[00:02:40] Speaker A: And be like, how bad is this dude? Go. I. I may end up there later tonight doing a mic or something. It is. Dude. I've had people. The part I don't like is there have been dudes who've just like, get in my face.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: Oh, the homeless guy. They're coming to you.
I have. I have a thought about that.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: Go for it.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: I have a. Because back in the day, homeless never came out to us like that.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: No, they were.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: You.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: It was like an exhibit. Like, you'd watch them from afar and they would. They'd mind their business.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: It was like. It was like we had like this agreement with the homeless.
[00:03:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: Where it was like this imaginary, like, velvet rope. You know what I mean? It's a yo, yo, yo. Don't.
If I give you the dollar, like, we're two arm lengths away.
[00:03:17] Speaker A: That's exactly right.
[00:03:18] Speaker B: But now they're like, I have a feeling that the homeless that we. That we have nowadays, this new age homeless, this 2.0.
[00:03:25] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: They're not from New York. I think they were shipped from other places to come here. Because I remember when I lived in la, I went up to San Francisco and people would always be like, the Sanford. The San Francisco homeless are different.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: They're different.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: I was like, what are you talking about?
I saw a guy ask a lady for, like, change or whatever. Oh, you have a dollar?
She gave him a dollar.
[00:03:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: And she always like, oh, I also have some. Some coins.
He goes, what the Is this?
Through the pennies or whatever she had in at her face, like, oh, my God, her glasses fell off.
[00:04:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:01] Speaker B: And was like yelling at her and chasing her down, you know, like, I Just wanted a dollar.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: You.
Yo, that's. That's crazy.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: The fact that the homeless, they don't want to take coins anymore is pretty funny to me, because that was the whole thing.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: I mean, what was the line 50 Cent had? Like, I take pennies if that's all the fiend had.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: You know, like, if you're a good drug dealer, you'll take coins, anything.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: I mean, that's just the whole mindset. You take whatever you can take. Yeah, right.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: I mean that you add up that money, you'll get a dollar. Like, if. Obviously they didn't go to school, but.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: So you're telling me the homeless out there are different?
[00:04:33] Speaker A: Bro, it's different. It's. They started to get rowdy. But I do, like. Hold on. I want to talk about your theory of they're not from here. Do you think? Also, it's a mix. They're not from here. The drugs are stronger and they stab mental illness. You think it's the mix of the three?
[00:04:48] Speaker B: Wow.
I think it. I think it could be the trifecta.
[00:04:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: I think that just, like, coffee's a lot stronger now. Or weed is a lot stronger now.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: I can't even smoke weed.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: I'm sure. I'm sure that whatever these people are doing now.
[00:05:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: Whatever drug deal of choice they're choosing, I definitely think that it's probably cheaper.
[00:05:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: And just much stronger now.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Without a doubt.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: And they're. The withdrawals are probably way harder now.
[00:05:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: It's always gonna. It's always gonna be a mental health thing.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: Yes. That's always the bottom line. And then.
[00:05:20] Speaker B: But if the. If the drugs are stronger, the mental health is gonna be.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: It totally kicks that shit out.
[00:05:24] Speaker B: That second wave is gonna be. Yeah. I don't know, dude. I mean, it would be nice to just to, like, think, like, if I give. I was a homeless person, I would be as respectful as possible.
[00:05:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: But at a certain point, like, you know how we all have bad days, bro. A homeless guy has to be like, today's the day. I'm just gonna.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: I'm gonna kill somebody.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: Or they're gonna. At least. Do you think they think they're gonna try to kill somebody, but in their head, they're just like, I don't have the energy today.
[00:05:52] Speaker A: I just want coffee, you know, I think they're fighting with the imaginary person in front of them half the time that, like, that's who they're gonna kill. So they're not actually killing anybody. They're screaming at themselves. So you know what I mean?
[00:06:03] Speaker B: I mean, mental health is. It's brutal. Because, you know, when growing up, I would only think that mental health was like, this is so stupid for me.
[00:06:12] Speaker A: To say, no, don't do it.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: But I feel like as a kid growing up, because my parents would just be like, look, they would point at, like, the homeless to be like, this is what happens if you don't go to school.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah, this is what happens.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: This is what happens. You know, say I love you before you go to bed. Like, this is what my parents would say. Latinos would say, that is what happens. You don't go to church. I'm like, okay, whatever. But I feel like, dude, I don't know, man. It's. It's so sad to see it. But I feel like my whole thing was. I always thought growing up that. That mental health stuff, like, because I would see them jumps, like, screaming at each other, screaming in a corner. I'm like, that's just a homeless person thing.
Because when I would go to Columbia to go visit my family out there, the only people that were doing the same exact thing or that were, like, crazy unstable were only the homeless people.
[00:06:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:54] Speaker A: So you just figured that's just homeless people.
[00:06:56] Speaker B: That's just a homeless thing.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: That's not dumb, bro. That makes sense.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: But.
But now that I've been doing comedy for two years, I've noticed a lot of people that are homeless, that are comedians. I'm like, oh, that's not a homeless thing.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: That's just your fucking crazy thing.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: We're just all crazy.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: Well, yeah, dude, but no one ever thought about mental health until, like, the last 15 years. And. Or maybe it was longer. But the thing is, is it wasn't on the Internet the way it is now, where people are able to see what this means, what that means, what mental health, like, really is, and this mental health awareness stuff. So I personally, I was like, that dude is fucking crazy and homeless.
I looked at it the same way. I didn't look too deep into it. I think now we're looking, we're digging deeper of maybe it's this, maybe it's that. Whereas before, I was like, I'm not even bothering. This guy's, you know, insane.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: But do you think that we're only really talking about mental health in, like, the last 15 years or so because of just, like, the people that are doing all these, like, mass shootings and shit are, quote, unquote, mentally ill or they're saying that they are. I think it's so we can Start the conversation.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: I think it's a way to. And. And this is. Let me preface this. I think I don't have an issue with guns.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: No.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: Personally, I'm like, if you want to have a gun, it's. You're right.
[00:08:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:06] Speaker A: However, I think it's a way to sort of. To like, hey, it's mental health. Like, let's look at mental health completely this way and totally avoid the talk of guns, which I. Like I said I don't think they should be taken from us. I think there should be some better, you know, things like, wait, it should be a little harder to get for certain people.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: But I think that may be, like, swaying it this way. I think it's good we're talking about it, but I don't know, man. The mental health is a weird because people use it for just, like, a ways to get viral also. Like, that's like, they don't give a. I watch videos on mental health, and I'm like, so Australian dudes crying about some. And I'm like, you're just looking to get attention. You're not actually wanting to have a conversation about. You don't care about it.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: You know, I don't know, man.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: I just. It is tough. But I do think that, like, you said, like, I'm not. Don't ban guns, but just make it harder for people to get guns that do background checks, do all that stuff. Yeah, don't ban guns from trans people now.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: No, I saw that, dude. I saw that.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: Because I'm like, like, okay, okay, so you're telling me that that trans. The person that shot up that church in Minnesota, I think, yeah, it was a trans.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Minneapolis.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: Minneapolis, yeah, it was a trans person. And listen, I don't know too much about it, but I do know that from what I read. I've been reading, the Trump administration is trying to ban guns from transgender people because they're saying that being trans is not a sexual. It's a mental health thing. That's the whole thing. Because they're trying to take away the funds from, like, the transgender people. So, like, no, that's not a sexuality thing. It's. It's a mental health thing. So. So what about all the white kids that shot up all the schools and all the other things? Are we just going to ban guns from white kids?
[00:09:49] Speaker A: That's the thing, dude. There was, like, a couple trans shooters that there's no way it's constitutional to be able to tell one group of people that you can't have what Everyone else can have.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: That's very like Soviet Union.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: That's insane. That's insane. That's not fair. And however I do. And this is going to be a. This is a real hot take.
[00:10:07] Speaker B: Here we go.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Which is not. I'm not being. I'm not phobic about anybody, but I do think that.
I think if you feel. If you in your heart of hearts feel you're a woman trapped in a man's body, you could be able to do that. But I do think that there is some sort of. I'm not saying you're mentally ill, but you know something.
[00:10:27] Speaker B: Just don't know. You just don't know what's going on.
[00:10:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Something's different.
[00:10:30] Speaker C: And.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: And I'm not saying that. But you shouldn't. That should have no reason. Whether you should get a gun or not, whether you think you're a man or a woman doesn't mean. It doesn't mean you're going to go shoot up a school. You should still have the right to go hunting and do whatever the fuck you want with that gun. Obviously not a trans person. Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong with a trans person having a gun. I don't think it's. It's. If you're not planning to go shoot up kids.
[00:10:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Or you know anyone, then I think you're fine. It's hard to put. If you're saying this person's mentally unstable, you could put it on the trans thing, or you could put it on the fact that they may be schizophrenic. Yeah. It's hard to.
To piece it apart. It's so fucking dense.
You know what I mean?
[00:11:09] Speaker B: But when you're on these, like, hormone meds, you tend to lose your mind a little bit.
[00:11:14] Speaker A: Oh, I'm not disagreeing with that.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Have you ever met a pregnant chick before?
[00:11:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, dude. I've left everyone.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: Have you ever spoken to that. That significant other of like. They're just like, she's so mean to me, bro.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: Mean. Or then they're loving and then they go off on a tangent.
I do.
[00:11:32] Speaker B: Because. Because they're hormonal.
[00:11:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: Now imagine being hormonal and not being on your meds, but with a gun in your hand.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: Sounds kind of hot.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: It does kind of sound. No, I don't know, dude. It's.
It's tough. It is tough.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: And this is why we're not politicians. We could just talk about it and.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Because in my head, I'm like, I bet you there's Someone out there that's like, if this.
This trans person is going to go into a church or a school and shoot said and said person or said kid, of course he's gonna do that. He cut off his fucking genitalia.
[00:12:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: He doesn't care about his shit. Why would he care about someone else's just life? And it's just like. That's. That's the wild part.
[00:12:12] Speaker A: That's it. I mean, that's a question.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: Because I don't think the. Some. Some people on. On that side. I don't think that they think trans people are actually people, bro.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Which is not fair to say, because they are. I mean, that's. That's just.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: We know trans people.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I know plenty of them. They're fine. And I'm like, I have no issue with them.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: But if they had guns, would you be like, hell, yeah. Or be like, what's going on? Why you have a gun?
[00:12:33] Speaker A: I wouldn't think about it. Honestly, I wouldn't think about. Unless they're walking around on the street with it.
[00:12:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: Then I wouldn't think about. But if someone told me. I mean, we know. I know one in particular who. I wouldn't be shocked if they had.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: A gun, especially where they're from.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: Yes. That's what they do over there. So I'd be like, all right, cool. They. She's. She's got a gun. That's. That's great.
If she was like, I. I have my gun on me right now. I think if anyone told me they had their gun on me right now, I'd just be a little uneasy.
[00:13:00] Speaker B: I'd be like, why do you have the gun? Just to.
[00:13:01] Speaker A: What's up?
[00:13:02] Speaker B: Pull it out in case a person run a light or something. Like, what. What do we do?
[00:13:05] Speaker A: That's the thing.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: Why are you bringing a gun to the open mic?
[00:13:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And my buddy. I have a buddy who's got a carry permit. Right.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: Okay. In New York.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: In New York, which is hard to get. And we're at dinner, and he said.
He just, like, whispered him, where did dinner? In a nice place in soho.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:20] Speaker A: And he goes, yeah, I got my gun on me right now. And I'm like, why?
[00:13:23] Speaker B: In Soho.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: In soho.
[00:13:24] Speaker B: Just in case.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: I'm like, for. For what? Who's. And I said. I'm like, more. And this is not a guy who you trust with a gun. I don't know how he got like. He'd be like. Like fucking. He'd pull it out and, you know.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: Like, he's like, where's my car keys?
[00:13:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And it up. And like, he ends up getting shot himself.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: So the Plaxco Burr syndrome. Shooting himself in the club.
[00:13:44] Speaker A: That's the thing, dude. And that's why places like Texas are safer places than New York, because everyone has a gun on them. It's either everyone needs to be armed or no one needs to be armed. You know what I'm saying?
Because if you know that. That if you and I are in a store, right, and we're getting into argument, and, you know I have a gun, and, you know you have a gun, I think we'd be a lot less likely to get into a fight.
We'd go, all right, we know. And. Whereas in New York, you're like, ah, this guy. And you don't think about it. Meanwhile, he may have a gun on him and you don't.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: But I think that's also the problem with, like, places that do have, like, those, like, where you're allowed to have guns.
[00:14:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:20] Speaker B: They just don't. They don't use their words to, like, to.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: So you think they shoot right away.
[00:14:25] Speaker B: To diffuse, like, certain situations.
That's probably why people up here in the east coast, even on the west coast, that we're not allowed to have guns, we use our words a little bit more. I feel like that's probably why. But people in the south, they're like, we got a prop.
[00:14:38] Speaker A: I don't think it's the opposite.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: You think so?
[00:14:41] Speaker A: I think it's the opposite. I think you're more likely to. Because you don't know if the other person's caring.
[00:14:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I always felt like people like. Like your buddy. I feel like people that walk around with guns and like, that, with permits in places that there's no need. I feel like those are the guys that just like, yeah, but I. More than you. You know that, right? Oh, wait, what? Yeah, talking about. It's like people, you know, you have like these. Yeah. When you have these conversations, like, you just have, like, an argument or just, like, a debate with someone, then they don't know how to really, like, hit you with a better, like, idea or whatnot or just. They're just like, you know what? But I get more than you, though.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: It's like, what we're talking about. I get more bit.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: I'm like, okay, you got more. You're right. Like, it's like, why? Why? Why do you have to bring that up? We're talking about sports, like, but it's like, no, I get more.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: I'm like, what are we talking about?
[00:15:25] Speaker B: Sure, sure.
[00:15:26] Speaker A: That's. Oh, it's always.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: And we always. We all have that one friend. It's like. Okay.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: I think there's, there's more than one.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:15:32] Speaker A: Yeah. You just got to let them go.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: Okay, well, the ones that are not that good with debates and they just want to start. Just want to fight you. They just want to fight. You know what? Let's just fight.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: Those are the, that's how I feel.
[00:15:42] Speaker B: Some people are in the South.
Some people, not everyone.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: Because, I mean, they're probably more. They're less likely to. They're not. And this.
[00:15:49] Speaker B: I also think that they probably have a bet, like a more peaceful life. They're just like. I just don't want to do. Do you still want to talk?
I still get more than you, bro.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: That's the thing. I think I'd be.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: You think it's the other way around.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: I think so. I, I, Where I go. All right. Like, I know we're both fighting evenly if we're gonna fight. You know what I mean? And whereas in New York, I don't know if this dude's got a gun.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: And that's the scary part.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:14] Speaker B: Where that's the wild part.
[00:16:15] Speaker A: The people. I'm thinking like that. And that's. So I avoid fights at all costs. I go, I don't want to get shot unless someone's in my face. I have no choice. Like, I, I'm a part of the, the what? The arm length rule. If you go past this, then.
[00:16:28] Speaker B: I thought you were going to say the, the guardian angel rule, like those guys and stuff.
[00:16:31] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:16:31] Speaker B: You part of the guardian angels. Nice.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: Nah, dude, if, if someone comes past your arm's length, once your arm bends and they're still you, you have a right to hit them.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: I think you have. You have. I think by law, you have. Have one. You get one. You can get one shot.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: One shot.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: Which after that, after that, it's. It's assault.
[00:16:49] Speaker A: And that's the thing. A lot of dummies get face to. You want to like, yo, once you do that, you're, you're at that point.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah. It's so easy for you to like, either. Well, again, it, it's just a weird, it can just be a weird situation. Right. Someone can be in your face that close, and then you can just like push them away and then I don't know where they fall into the train.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: Track and they, and then you, you murdered someone. Yeah, it's.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, when I see fights on like, on train platforms. Like, what are you doing, bro?
[00:17:14] Speaker A: You're insane.
[00:17:15] Speaker B: It's kind of like. I. Okay, I'm lying. I like watching fights.
[00:17:20] Speaker A: I do. We all do the back.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: I. I like watching fights on train platforms only because it's like, the closest thing for me to feel like I'm on set. I like a Mission Impossible movie with, like, fighting on top of trains. You ever seen that?
[00:17:33] Speaker A: Yeah, of course this is gonna happen, right?
[00:17:36] Speaker B: And then there's always the guy. Like, they're fighting, then they roll into, like, one guy falls into the track, and then the guy that. The fight that he's fighting against has to pick him up. Like, I'm sorry.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Which is the crazy thing, which is.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: The beautiful part about no one died, and they shake their hands.
[00:17:47] Speaker A: Like, you have to do that. You have to go, dude, get to. I have to help you. You're gonna die right now.
[00:17:52] Speaker B: I mean, would you rather watch a fight on the ground on the subway, or would you rather watch it, like, in the middle of the street?
[00:17:57] Speaker A: Probably in the middle of the street. Just because the subway feels like there's no way out. And I want to be able to walk away from this if I'm not a part of this.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: I personally, I'm not gonna sit there and watch a fight, and I'm not gonna help break it up unless it's with a woman. Like, if someone's beating the shit out of a woman, then if it's like.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: A mismatch, I'm like. I just. I'm waiting for someone to be, like, get involved. Because if not, like, I don't want to be the guy, I'm not gonna get involved unless I really have to get involved.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Someone's actually.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: In terms of. Yeah, in terms of just, like, yo.
But I have to, like, really make sure I'm, like, looking around like, no one, like, has his back. Because, you know, if you try to get involved, you're fucked. That's how people get punished.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: People don't understand that. It's like when you come to the city for the first time and you see someone laying on the floor, and you're like. And the person, like, we should help. No, no, no. You have to leave them alone. You don't go near them.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: But it's also. Not that also circles back to fucking mental health again, bro.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: It's. I mean, that's You. You're also mentally ill if you think that you're going to win a fight.
[00:18:51] Speaker B: I think that's a human thing, though. I think we have like, that instinct where we're like, I can fight.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: I don't.
I don't. There are times where I look and I go, I'd be able to handle myself if I need to, but I'm not going to go and puff my chest out for a fight. You know what I mean?
[00:19:07] Speaker B: Like, I think you're right. I think you're right. But I do think that there's that urge in us, especially as men, where, like, when you're walking by and you see like a.
Like the sign up, they, like, I can touch it.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: Oh, I get that. That's a good way to put it.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Yeah. If you can't touch it, it's like, I can definitely touch it. Then it's like a whole competition. Because I think at the end of the day, it's just like, it's animalistic. It's a competition. And just like, when you're driving on a highway and you see a car crash, you rubber neck in the whole time, it's part of it. We just have to see it.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: You have to look.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: Which is why, like, you see, like, social media, we get lost in the sauce with, like, the news because you're just like, what's happening here? Oh, my God. It's just. And they know it. They have us by the balls. And that's the sad part. I think that's why we're. I think that's why we're. And the only way that we're gonna be able to at least somewhat mitigate it a little bit is do what you did, where you just, like, got off your phone for, like, how long did you get off your phone? You did that?
[00:19:56] Speaker A: I was. For a week. It wasn't long.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Was it nice?
[00:19:58] Speaker A: I wanted to do longer, but I got back to the scared of, like, being relevant, of, like, I want to post my shows. I want. I want that shit. Like, it got to me a little bit. But the reboot was so good because there was moments where I was just posting shit to post shit. I didn't even care about it. And I'm like, now I'm losing. And I have days. I have days where my. I need to post something. I go, well, there's nothing. I'm really thinking about it. Thinking about. Unless I think it's funny. Like, today I was thinking about, what can I post? And I posted a clip on Charlie Sheen.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: He wants to fuck dudes.
[00:20:34] Speaker A: Yeah. And I was like, the guy used to smoke crack. Of course he used to fuck guys, like, everyone who smokes crack. And that was to me, I thought that was funny. Maybe the world won't. But I'm like, okay, I feel good that I did that.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Listen, as long as he got that out, that's the thing.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: But it's like, all right, only if I want to do it. I see people like, I need to keep up, keep the, the train rolling. How do you feel like about social media? Like where cuz you're, you know a lot of people.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: But you don't post, so I know you post on your story a lot.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I do post a lot on my story.
[00:21:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:06] Speaker A: But it's other shit, funny shit.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: I try to, I tried. That's always been my thing. Like I've always just been like, even way before, like Instagram really popped off, I would like when Facebook was like popping back in the day. Yeah, I was my Facebook story. Like my updates were crazy. I would just say the most crazy.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: I did too.
[00:21:23] Speaker B: Like screenshots.
And like my buddies would like, they would screenshot shit from way back when and they'd be like, dude, you gotta.
[00:21:29] Speaker A: Like, you gotta scrub this shit.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: A lot of it was that, but some of it was my buddies would just be like, yo, you gotta like just screenshot that shit and just like look back at it, like way back, like in the future and just like laugh about it. To the point. One of my buddies was like, yo, a lot of those statuses you had were very funny, like premises.
[00:21:47] Speaker A: And I was just great.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: And I'm just like, yeah, but I can't make any of these. Like it was just like all stupid New York centric or like silly bullshit, right? Yeah, but yeah, no, in terms of like my social media stuff, I mean like when you guys post, like when you and Joe Gerbo and all these guys, they post like, you post like your reels and stuff.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: Like I do get jealous. I'm like, I want to do that. But I'm just like, I just don't feel like I have anything good enough to post on that stuff yet. And I, and I say, okay, maybe I can, maybe I can put up like, you know, like topical stuff and whatnot. But it's just like I always feel like whenever I do post something or I'm about to post like a clip of something that I'm doing on stage, I'm just like, I watch it and I'm just like, as I'm about to post, I'm like, oh, I think of a random tag.
[00:22:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: So in a way I feel like there's no, there's no problem if you do post it because I don't believe in the whole like you gotta burn it once.
[00:22:38] Speaker A: I I don't agree with that either. We don't know. No one knows who we are.
[00:22:41] Speaker B: We're not doing clubs yet. We're not doing like the seller. We're not doing all this stuff yet. We have to keep doing our rinse and repeating it. I mean if you're posting the real cool but when you do it on stage, you have to at least add something new to it.
[00:22:53] Speaker A: Well that's the thing. I'll put. I'll take a little bit of it like a small chunk and then. And then I have a whole bunch of other to add to it.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: I love, I love the. The whole just posting on my story like reposting other people's random silliness which is great.
[00:23:06] Speaker A: I You always find something funny. That's what people like to watch. They like to see when it comes from an account that no one has any idea what is either.
[00:23:12] Speaker B: Like, like, like when like remember the fat Jewish. Remember that guy?
[00:23:15] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:23:15] Speaker B: Of course he got in trouble because he he was posting that wasn't his.
[00:23:18] Speaker A: Yeah yeah know that but you I want to get back to you said that you feel like it's not good enough to post dude half the time my is not even that funny. But I'm like, you know what? I I. It made me giggle enough where I go maybe it'll give something else or someone who has never seen.
[00:23:34] Speaker B: No no. I think that. I think that you should definitely keep doing that. A lot of people that should definitely be doing and that because that's also another way that helps people write it.
[00:23:42] Speaker A: That'S you know, it does help that.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: Way you post so much dope stuff up there and I'm just like dude, like that's. You're just writing. That's literally just you writing. That's which is.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: It's just. Yeah, it's helpful.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: It's good. I want to do that. It's just like. I just don't know. I just like. I feel like I like performing on stage and doing it. But I'm not against the idea of posting this stuff. I just. I'm like, you know what?
[00:24:03] Speaker A: I'll get there the performing on. I mean there's nothing like performing there is. It is the most I've gotten now to a point where alcohol and drugs don't do it the way that they used to do it. And now it's this. And I go I'm almost pissed.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: We're fucked. Yeah, we're literally.
It's very. It's very frustrating, but it's also, like, very. It's a lot healthier if you think about it.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: It is.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: It.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: It is a way.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: In a way, because it's like, all right, I don't have to fucking drink this fifth of vodka to be like, I could just go on stage for like 5 minutes or 10 minutes or whatever.
[00:24:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: I got that out of the way. I don't know. I mean, I love. I love when people just. I think that if you're a comic. And unfortunately, this is how it is now, where we have to be really good with social media and constantly stay relevant. But it's like. To who?
[00:24:56] Speaker A: It's. It's, it's. It is nonsense.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: It's kind of like when. It's like when dudes go to the gym. It's like, you're not impressing the ladies. You're trying to impress the dude dudes.
[00:25:02] Speaker A: Without it, no one. It's only.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: You're not in, like. Okay, I get it. You're posting stuff and you. And you're trying to get people to, you know, to come to your. To engage and come to your shows. But it's like, I. I'm a big believer of, like, actually genuinely, like, reaching out to people. Like, like at least hanging out with them before you start inviting them out to places.
[00:25:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:20] Speaker B: To shows, whatnot. Because I feel you just need more of a connection that way versus, like a clip that goes around. Cool. If a clip goes wildly, it reaches someone in New Mexico and. And they're in town, they want to see me. Great.
[00:25:31] Speaker C: Yeah, that's.
[00:25:32] Speaker B: That, that's the cool thing about social media. But I think right now it's like, I'm so. I'm so fresh in the game and only two years in.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: It's like, me too. It's.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: It's.
[00:25:41] Speaker A: I just want to keep writing, keep getting better. Keep getting better.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: But I do think that that is. That is another thing that we have to do as comics now. It's not just performing crowd work or riffing, all this like that. It's like you have to be very good at social media, which is good. Which is good.
[00:25:58] Speaker A: 100.
[00:25:59] Speaker B: You have to be good because there's a lot of guys that are very good at that aspect of it, and.
[00:26:03] Speaker A: They suck at the. Suck at stand up dude. That is.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: And vice versa.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: Pathetic thing.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: And vice versa. And that's the hard part being that hybrid that in between.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: That's. You have to. You have to Figure it out. I do think, though, in. In our case, that you need to be. If you're gonna do this, you need to be better at stand up. Because I don't know how you can go up there and I would be fucking shitting bricks and embarrassing myself. Like, I'd rather imagine.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: Imagine. Imagine they find one of your clips, right? A club somewhere like Nashville or whatever, they find one of your clips like that fucking. This kid's hilarious. Oh, I found another fucking hilarious clip. They message you, would you like to feature for such and such person?
[00:26:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: You'd be like, oh, shit. What if you're the comic that is really good at having viral clips but only has tat 12 minutes?
[00:26:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:49] Speaker B: The club asked for 30.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: What do you do?
[00:26:52] Speaker B: That's the problem. That's why, for me, it's like, okay, I've done 30 minutes before, but was it good? 30 minutes? I can tell you no. But the crowd in North Carolina and Virginia, they laughed and I'm like, yeah, but this a New York crowd. A savvy New York crowd. Not saying that those guys aren't savvy.
[00:27:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: But we're talking about cities that don't have comedy clubs anywhere near them. So, like, you perform at a brewery or whatever, and they love anything you say.
You go to a. Like somewhere at the stand or somewhere, you know, St. Mark's or you go to Roddy's, or you have actual people that see comedy all the time, and you're just like, of course that didn't work. You guys know comedy.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: Or.
[00:27:28] Speaker A: Or they don't know comedy.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: They don't know.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: And they're sitting there going, this isn't funny.
[00:27:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:36] Speaker A: They're almost too smart.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: But the thing is. But I'm also like, you can't be funny. You can't be funny to everybody.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: No, it's impossible.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: You can't.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: If you. If everyone finds you funny, then you're not that funny, if you ask me. I don't know. Does that make any sense?
[00:27:51] Speaker B: 100.
[00:27:51] Speaker A: You know, 100.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: Listen, the goal is to be funny.
[00:27:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: The goal is to be funny. But at the end of the day, you're not gonna make everyone laugh. Like, unfortunately, there's people out there that are not Chris Rock fans.
[00:28:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:02] Speaker A: Which is crazy.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: Richard Pryor. They're not Carlin fans.
[00:28:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:05] Speaker B: They're not like Chappelle fans. They're not like all these guys. And it's just like, well, that doesn't mean that you're stupid. But it's also like, not everyone not everyone. Not everyone likes to eat steak.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: You know, that's true.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: So it's like. And how could you not eat steak? It's like, it's not for everyone.
[00:28:21] Speaker A: It's the best way to put it. I'll still judge.
[00:28:24] Speaker B: That's the hardest part. As an artist, as a comic, where we tell jokes. We want to get that, like, instant gratification from a lab. It's hard when you're crushing and then there's, like, a table on the side where they're not. There's nothing.
[00:28:36] Speaker A: You know, I've had that before, and.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: It'S tough, but you have to just. Then you deal with it.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: I. Dude, I'll be honest. You know this.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: You do sales. We've all done sales.
[00:28:45] Speaker A: I.
[00:28:45] Speaker B: Every deal.
[00:28:46] Speaker A: I don't mind it. I don't mind it. I look at them.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: That's the best part.
[00:28:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: I go, they don't. They don't. This is not for them.
[00:28:52] Speaker B: You can't. Every girl at the bar, maybe one.
[00:28:55] Speaker A: One's nice, dude. Even. Even making out with one, I'm like, this is good night.
[00:29:00] Speaker B: That means the set went well.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what it is. But it's like, there's. There's actual comics out there that they haven't figured it out yet in terms of just like, yo. Like, especially at Mike's, when they bomb at a mic, they get. They feel so, like, shit. Like, dude, there's a mic.
[00:29:14] Speaker A: I know.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: That's the whole point of a mic.
[00:29:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:16] Speaker A: This is. This is the gym. You're at the gym right now.
[00:29:18] Speaker B: But that's the thing. A lot of them don't know that. A lot of comics either never been to the gym or they never played a sport where they had to lose.
[00:29:27] Speaker C: You have to lose. Yeah.
[00:29:28] Speaker B: You have to lose in order to be able to get better. Because if not like you said, if you're crushing all the time and everyone thinks you're funny, you're not pushing it to the point where you're not taking some risks with certain topics.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: Without a doubt.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: Or you just want to be funny. Cool. Be funny. That's fine. But at a certain point, it's like, some people also want to be like, they want to know you a little bit. They want to relate. That's where I want. I want to be.
I would love for me to come off stage and someone would be like, yo, I know exactly what you were saying about that set and said topic. Like, I'm going through the same exact Thing or if someone in the crowd is like, oh my God, that's. That's exactly what Sudden Sud is going, yeah, that's what I want to talk more about. Like that. Because when I first started doing comedy, I was like, why is it stop sign red? I'm like, what am I talking about?
[00:30:09] Speaker A: It's not, I don't even give a about this.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: Like, it's like, I just want to talk about, like, that's like funny to me and that I care about and that if someone in the crowd can somewhat relate to it, it's cool. Like, that's kind of where I'm at right now with my stand up. It's like I just turned 35. All my friends that are my age, they're like, have houses and families or whatnot. And then they're all like, we're. Where are you at, bro? And then I'm looking at them, I'm like, bro, you look like you're 50 years old now. Look like, what are you talking about? I'm not saying that that's not what I want. It's like, that's not the case. But it's also like, I do things a little unorthodox, bro. Like, it's just a little different.
[00:30:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: I've never been the person to kind of follow the crowd. Obviously, I'm like a contrarian to a certain point. But it's like, listen, bro, it is what it is. Like, I don't know, people really want you to. Misery just loves company, I guess.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: Now, I'm not saying having a kid. It means your life will be miserable. It's not the case. But for me, it's just like, I just, I don't, I don't know what it is. I just can't find it. So for me, I like talking about shit that bothers me, makes me laugh or like tickles my something in my brain. I'm like, you know what? This is what I'm going to talk about. And if I get something out of it, cool. And then I could talk more about.
[00:31:22] Speaker A: It, but if not, well, I mean, you're, we're 30.
[00:31:25] Speaker B: I'm like, we're in our 30s, bro.
[00:31:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it's, it's. I think you, you, I, I figure it out. Well, first of all, you talk about, you talk about stuff with your mom and like having Hispanic mother and it's super relatable. Like, I, when you go up, I already know who you are. Like, and that I personally, that's the kind of. I want to see Also, I don't like to watch a comic.
I don't like when I don't know who they are. I'm like, I have no idea who this person is. And that kills me.
So I, I think it's hard though.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: When you don't even know who you are at times too.
[00:31:56] Speaker A: Well. I think the younger guys have an issue not saying I know who I am fully because I'm figuring that out every day, doing stand up. That's the thing. Every time we figure out what it is, and you're gonna have different trials and tribulations that'll change who you are. And you go, oh, I'm actually more like this than that, which is important.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:13] Speaker A: But at least from now I go, this is who I'm at, you know, this is, this is me. And I think a lot of, a lot of comics, when they see me go up, they, if they've never seen me before, they think this guy's trying to shock people right now. And then eventually they get to know me and they go, oh, no, he genuine. This is genuinely what I like.
But I don't understand then. And with 20 year old comics, they're talking about things that they don't. They go, oh, I think a good joke can come out of this, but they're not talking about it because they care about it.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:42] Speaker A: The other day I was on stage and I started talking about something and I stopped myself and I go, I don't even give a shit about this. And I want. What do I, what am I really thinking about right now?
[00:32:50] Speaker B: Yeah. 100%.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: You know, that's literally the way you.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: Should, should approach it. I feel like if we get five minutes of stage time.
[00:32:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: Go up there. Think of it like you're doing speed dating.
[00:33:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: That's how I look. I'm like, I'm going, I have five minutes to have to impress the audience. But I want them to at least get, get something. If they see my point, see my point in something.
[00:33:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: If they don't, cool, then obviously I'll have to keep working on it like always. But I'm glad that I've done it now. I'm glad I've done it for two years. But in those two years now I've. I remember in the beginning when I first started, I was beating myself up all the time. I'm like, none of this sounds good. Yeah, it sounds so inauthentic. I would watch like my tapes or whatnot and just listen to my audio and I'm like, dude, I Sound so robotic.
[00:33:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: Where it just got to the point where, like, once, like 13 months in hit, I'm just like, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna switch it up a little bit. I'm gonna just go up there, have bring up, you know, my. My notebook, and just bullet point a topic and all the stuff that I'm just gonna just talk about it, just riff a bit if works, if it sticks. Cool. Because for me, I've always been like, I want to be as conversational as possible. I'm not. I don't want to sound like a robot. I don't want to sound like I'm reading off a teleprompter, which is how my first year was.
[00:34:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:34:00] Speaker B: And now I'm a lot of people. Now I'm like, trying to be as loose as possible because I spoke to Kevin Sanchez once, and he was like, yo, just be up. Just try to be you as much as you can. That's the goal. It takes forever, but for me, I'm like, you know what?
I definitely want to write good jokes. That's the whole point of it. But before I do that, I need to make sure that I'm comfortable up.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: There, without a doubt.
[00:34:21] Speaker B: And then from there, the jokes will come.
They're just gonna flow out because it's like when you go to a party, you're not gonna be comfortable with such a brand new person you meet until, like, they really. You really kind of relax and into the moment, really chat with the person, and then you can just really be yourself.
But how do you do that in five minutes?
[00:34:40] Speaker A: It's very hard. It's very hard. And that's the other thing where if you're talking about something you don't care.
[00:34:46] Speaker B: About, that's the problem.
[00:34:47] Speaker A: You. You. And it's like having a conversation with someone that you're meeting for the first time, you're like, oh, that's the problem. Like, if.
[00:34:54] Speaker B: What do you do for work?
[00:34:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I have give a yes.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: I don't care, bro.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: And. And that's the. Where. If you're doing that in comedy, you're like, the whole point is, where do you talk about whatever the you want here? So don't waste time talking about you don't care about.
[00:35:09] Speaker B: Don't. It's. Life is too short, bro. I mean, look, especially for, like, for me, I started doing stand up at 32.
[00:35:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: Just turned 35.
I need to keep doing it, but I need to do it with a purpose. Like, I'm not gonna go up to be. Hey, so you guys see the girl with the tits in the front? Like, I don't care if a. About that. I don't care. I've seen tips before, guys. You guys have never seen that guy. I don't give a.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: That's the other thing.
[00:35:31] Speaker B: You.
[00:35:31] Speaker A: You and me. And there's a couple others who have actually before.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the problem.
That's the problem. I. Oh, my God.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: Sorry. That was a sidebar.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: It's true. That is a sidebar. It's like, I've. I was telling. Who was I talking to? I was talking to someone that when I was walking to the train with them, I was like, bro, I've never met so many that, like, quote unquote, incels or whatever they were.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: They're in cells. But they're funny.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: But they're funny. But I've never met so many of them in my life until I started doing stand up. They're very funny people, but it's so crazy how they think and how they move, and it's just like, all right, that's fine. But that's also what makes us different, right?
[00:36:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:12] Speaker B: Like, there's so many times, I'm sure you've gotten this, too, where, like, you know, you produce shows where you'll get DMs from comics. Like, hey, man, I'd love to do a spot on your show.
[00:36:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:20] Speaker B: And then you see that same comic that DM's you and doesn't even go up to you be, yo, what up? And I'm like, then you see them do their set, and you're like, oh, you're unemployed, or you don't have a girl. It makes sense.
[00:36:30] Speaker A: You have no idea.
[00:36:31] Speaker B: You have no idea.
[00:36:32] Speaker A: Like, social cues or contacts, anything. Which is insane to me.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: Now. I'm not saying you need to say, what up to me if you want to go on my show, but it's also like, if you want to. If you want to, let's say, quote, unquote, if you want a job or you want to do something, you want to kind of go, you got to.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: Send your resume and you got to say hi, and you introduce yourself and go hype.
[00:36:47] Speaker B: Or at least go support the show. Some Support the show. Go hang out with the guys. Go hang out with the girls. It's like, there's a reason why so many girl comics don't want to focus. Some of these guy comics, of course, dude, there's.
[00:36:57] Speaker A: There's. Wait, you said donor.
[00:36:59] Speaker B: Do they don't. Oh, yes, they don't and some of them do probably. But a lot of times it's like, yo, stop acting like you're with the bros all the time. Just act like yourself.
[00:37:08] Speaker A: That's the thing where there are some women who are cool with it, they don't mind, like, hanging with the boys, which is fine. That's cool. Which there is a level of, like, it gets weird. Like, it gets like, kind of weird where you go, like, it's just not even funny. Like, I'll talk about my dick in front of women or whatever, but there's a level of like, loser. Like, there's a very thin line between funny and loser.
[00:37:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:30] Speaker A: And when you do it in front of a woman, you're kind of.
[00:37:32] Speaker B: But if it's funny and they laugh and the whole crowd laughs, it's funny.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: That's thing.
[00:37:37] Speaker B: But you got to make it funny.
[00:37:38] Speaker A: Yeah, you got to. I mean, just chilling purposes.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: Chilling too. I've always been a person where, like, when I get to know someone or they get to know me, like, doesn't matter. Whatever the conversation is, it's. It's going to be. Something's going to be funny out of it.
[00:37:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: I just can't. I can't be like, serious ever.
[00:37:53] Speaker A: I. I don't have the thing.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: Growing up until this day, everyone's always. Yo, yo, Nico, for a sec. Can you just be serious for once?
[00:37:59] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:37:59] Speaker B: Never.
[00:38:00] Speaker A: Which I like that.
[00:38:01] Speaker B: That's never.
[00:38:02] Speaker A: You need to have never.
[00:38:03] Speaker B: That's always going to be me, right? But. Yeah. Again, these. I mean, listen, it is what it is. But the.
[00:38:08] Speaker A: Were you like a class clown?
[00:38:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. I was. I was going through.
My wife wanted to, like, throw a whole bunch of out of the apartment, like to do like some spring cleaning.
[00:38:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: And I found my high school yearbook. And I was like, oh, shit, I haven't seen this thing in forever. 2008 is when I graduated high school. Yeah. I opened that shit up. Looking all my boys that I was in all boys high school.
[00:38:27] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: So it was like prison.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: Shout out Holy Cross High School and fucking Flushing. But I opened up that. That fucking book and dude, it was. I. I was having like a slump. You know when you have a slump when you're doing comedy. Just like. Yep, I was having a slump. I was like, so down in the dumps. I was like, I can't write any jokes. Like, none of this stuff sounds funny. I was like, going over my whole set all, like, just all the jokes that I had in my book. And I was like, none of this works. What's going on?
So I was like, you know, let me not do any. Any writing or any comedy for, like, for today. Let me just do something different. Went to the gym, got home, my wife was like, we gotta do some spring cleaning. I was like, fine. I find my high school yearbook. I'm like, oh, dust this off. I open it. I open it all the way to the back of all my boys. You know, they all sign it, of course, dude.
I send you a picture, and I'll just approve, bro. It said, nico, funniest kid in school.
And I was like. And when I saw that, I was, like, tearing up a little bit. I was like, I think I'm doing.
[00:39:20] Speaker A: What you need to be doing.
[00:39:21] Speaker B: I found. I finally found something that I genuinely wanted to do.
[00:39:25] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: And somehow I literally jumped out of that funk and I just started writing new stuff. And I think that's just what it is. It's like, I. For. For a living, you know, I work in. I do, like, physical therapy. I love that. I love helping people.
[00:39:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: I think that's genuinely what I was put on this earth to do, just to help people physically.
And the comedy helps me help them out, Whether it's for, like, five, two minutes, whatever it is, I can get them out of their little funk of their life that they deal. If I can just have them forget about whatever tragedy they dealt with that day or that week or whatever it is that they're doing. If I can help them forget about that shit.
[00:39:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:59] Speaker B: That's all I care about. I would sacrifice mine for them to be happy. And that's just how I am, which is great.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: I mean, that's the whole. I mean, that's. I think a lot of comics are.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: That's kind of like. That's the beauty. But, yes, I was a class clown. Too much. Too much of a class clown.
[00:40:12] Speaker A: And when you saw way too much, did you. You started. You met your wife first and then you started doing comedy.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: And what'd she say when you're like, that's a curious thing? I'm like, you know, someone and their. Next thing you know, you look at them and they've known you for a couple, and you're like, I want to do stand up. You know? Like, how was that?
[00:40:29] Speaker B: So we met. We met out here in New York. We met on Bumble.
[00:40:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:40:34] Speaker B: And we were dating for, like, four months. And then we were like, you know what's a good idea?
We should move in with each other, but not in New York. We should Move to LA together.
[00:40:44] Speaker C: I've done that.
[00:40:45] Speaker B: And then. And on top of that, why don't we get a dog?
[00:40:49] Speaker A: Yeah, let's really make this complicated.
[00:40:51] Speaker B: The problem is I had an ex girlfriend that I, that I didn't move in with it. But I, We. I got her a dog. And then we, we broke up and.
[00:40:57] Speaker A: She took the dog.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: She can have the dog, you know, like, that was the whole thing.
[00:41:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: But I was like, oh, no, I'm making the same mistakes again. But in my head I was like, this is right. This is right. I'm toxic.
[00:41:07] Speaker A: Do this. I do the same.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: We, we lived in LA for three years. So we got married. So we were together for like seven years, then we got married. And then literally three months into us being newlyweds, I was like, oh, so.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: You got married and then you told her, oh, my God, dude, I got married.
[00:41:25] Speaker B: And then I told her, I want to start doing comedy. And she's like, oh, I knew this was gonna happen. Like she. In her head. Because I was always a stand up comedy fan.
[00:41:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:32] Speaker B: Like when I lived in la, I lived like three, like LA blocks away from the Comedy Store.
[00:41:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:41:39] Speaker B: So I would go to the Comedy Store all the time in 2016. So 2016 to 2019, that was like the podcast boom in LA.
[00:41:44] Speaker A: I remember.
[00:41:45] Speaker B: So that's when I really. Because I was living out there and my. One of my buddies, like, hey, do. Do you know this, this podcast, Tiger Belly? I was like, no, I don't know what that is. Yeah, because you know Bobby Lee. I was like, yeah, I know Bobby Lee, the guy from MAD tv.
[00:41:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: He's like, you gotta listen to this, this guy.
I listened to that podcast and they would have all these other comics, like Theo Von all blah, blah. And then they would end the podcast with. I'd be at. I'm gonna be at the Comedy Store tonight. I was like, I live right by the Comedy Store.
[00:42:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: So I, I would start going to the Comedy Store and they have a thing at the Comedy Store at the time where it's like, if you showed them your, your ID that you live in the area, you can go in for free.
[00:42:17] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:42:17] Speaker B: Buy a drink.
[00:42:18] Speaker A: Okay, bro.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: I was going in and just like, just hanging out just to watch shows. I would see like, Burr the best Sebastian Russell Peters, like, like, what the fuck is going on here?
[00:42:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: And that's little. But, like, literally how I started getting into the idea of like, I want to, I want to do this. But the person that really got me into, like, actually Going to hit up an open mic was. I was listening to Andrew Schultz on one of his podcasts, and he spoke about it.
I went and he. I did an open mic when I was living out in. When he was going to school in Cali, he did an open mic, and that was it. He. He bombed and then got addicted to it. And.
And I think. I think he was on Bobby Lee's podcast, and Bobby was talking about it. He said, yeah. He's like, people that want to do it, they just have to go on stage and try it out.
[00:43:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:43:05] Speaker B: And then I literally was like, how the fuck can I do this?
[00:43:08] Speaker A: Just do it.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: And I googled it, and I found an open mic in. In Queens. I went to the QED. No, I went to Grove 34.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: Okay, bro.
[00:43:16] Speaker B: I went to, like, six open mics and didn't even do. I just went there and I sat and watched.
[00:43:21] Speaker A: Really?
[00:43:22] Speaker B: I was so scared.
[00:43:23] Speaker A: And that makes you feel like too. You're sitting there going, I didn't get up.
[00:43:26] Speaker B: Like, well, every time I would go in, I'd go up to the. To the. To the register. The guy at the cashier, I'm like, oh, can I just get a seltzer water? He said, all right, because you bought an item.
Give you five. I'm good. He's like, what? I was like, no, I'm just. I just want to watch. He's all right. When I went the sixth time, he was like, what's up, man? What can I get for you? I was like, can I get a Celtics? All right, cool. You're not doing. You're not doing any time today again? I'm like, nah. And then there was a comic that was behind me that goes, bruh, you've been coming here six weeks straight.
[00:43:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: You gotta just do it.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: He's right.
[00:43:58] Speaker B: I'm like. I'm like, yeah. Nah. Like, I really respect the art form is how I was like, I really respect. I really respect the art form of stand up that I don't want to go up to up there and not have material.
And then, like, as I'm walking away after I pay, the comment does it. You got to go up there. He's like, man, some people just don't want to do it.
[00:44:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:44:14] Speaker B: And I heard him say that under, like, talking to the guy, and they were laughing, and I was like, what? Like, I was like, what?
He went up. Like, he was like, fourth in the lineup.
[00:44:25] Speaker A: Was he any good?
[00:44:25] Speaker B: Eight Dick.
[00:44:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:44:27] Speaker B: Ate. And I was like, I'm going up.
[00:44:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:44:29] Speaker B: I Signed up. It was, it was a four minute mic. I signed up and got one laugh.
That's all I needed. Because I knew I, that that guy didn't get any laughs. And I was like, that's all I wanted.
[00:44:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:44:43] Speaker B: And after that I just, that's how I started. I just kept doing it, but my wife was like, yo, you're cuz I would. When unfortunately with me, it's like I get super obsessed about these things and I just don't. I can't let go. It's like a bulldog that lock Jaws.
[00:44:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:44:58] Speaker B: And like the first six, like months of it, I just was doing it every day. My wife was like, hey, hey, you.
[00:45:05] Speaker A: Know I'm still here, right?
[00:45:06] Speaker B: Are we ever gonna hang out?
[00:45:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:07] Speaker B: I was like, oh, yeah, of course.
[00:45:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: I'm just gonna go to the 2:00pm yeah. To the stand mic real quick.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: Who are you fucking? Yeah.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: She was never like that. It was just more just like she knew. Because the thing was, before I ever started doing comedy, I was always watching specials.
[00:45:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:21] Speaker B: I was always watching like Comedy Central half. I was always watching. I would always go to shows.
[00:45:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: I would always go to like random, like if such. Whoever was at like the Beacon Theater or radio. See, I would always just go. And I always have. Hey, you want to come with me? She would always be like, nah, you can do that thing.
[00:45:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: But in her head, she never was. She was like, I never wanted to ask you if you want to start doing stand up. Because I always just thought this was just like a thing you like. Yeah, just like the way I like watching like Real Housewives or whatever.
[00:45:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't actually want to be one.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't want to be one. She's like, but then like, you want to do this thing? She's. I know you're a funny guy. Like everyone that every time we hang out, we've been like, they always say you're a funny guy. But it's like, I didn't think you were actually gonna do this. It wasn't like. She was like, this is stupid. She was like, I'm happy that you're doing this thing. But hey, just remember, like, there's a life outside of comedy. But like when I first started, I was like, no, there's not.
No, there's not. You know, but imagine, dude, imagine you marry a chick like you're eight years in and then you just marry her like two years in, and she's like, you know what? I want to go to cosmetology. School.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: And you're like, oh, I mean, cool.
[00:46:16] Speaker B: But then she's like super obsessive about like, I got to get this.
Fine.
[00:46:21] Speaker A: I wouldn't, I would support it. Here's the thing. A woman, and this is a really, I think, a, an important thing to talk about, because that's what we talk about here. Important shit that a woman deciding, waking up and going, I want to do this crazy thing that is wild. And I want to do stand up comedy. We'll say they have the luxury in society's terms, maybe not in our personal terms, but in society's terms, to go, I want to pick up and do whatever the I want. Meaning, like, I want to do a complete career path.
A man doing that. It's tough, it's different. Like, imagine you're. You're supporting your family and then one day you're like, hey, I want to do this completely insane thing. You're. A wife will look and go, I don't know how I feel about that. Whereas a husband, I think his common response would be, hey, give it a shot.
[00:47:13] Speaker B: You think so?
[00:47:14] Speaker A: I think I. And I'm going based strictly on society. I'm not going on society.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: Wise.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: Yes, I think, yeah, I would agree.
[00:47:21] Speaker B: So, I mean, I think that. But I also think that I got lucky only because when I started doing stand up, my wife was towards the tail end of her time at her at the company. She was working at agency, and she was like, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna quit this job and I'm gonna take a chance.
[00:47:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:47:38] Speaker B: Because she's like, you just took a chance to start doing stand up. Now, I'm not saying that she's, she's started a company because of me taking a chance to do stand up.
[00:47:45] Speaker A: No, but that shit is contagious.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: She was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna quit this job. That salary, six figures, you know, like great benefits. Yeah, everything was great. She's like, I'm gonna quit this job and I'm gonna put all my eggs in this basket and I'm gonna start my own agency. Because I feel like I'm putting too much blood, sweat and tears into and the money's going to someone that doesn't appreciate.
[00:48:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:07] Speaker B: And she took that leap. But, dude, if it wasn't for her doing that, I don't think I'd even be able to even do stand up comedy. Because, like, she has so much time that she's putting into that company that I'm like, when I come home after doing, like, A mic or a show, and it could be like 9 or 10pm and she's just closing her laptop. So now she's like, so how was your day?
[00:48:25] Speaker A: So that kind of works out. You guys are on the same schedule.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: She's super. She's super. Like, she's about that life. Like, she's all. She's all in for me doing this because it's not like, it's not like I'm quitting my job and just doing stand up. Would I love to do that? Yeah, but it's like, that's not really.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: You have to be realistic and go, I gotta pay my bills. Yeah, but you gotta bring something.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: But it is tough because, like, I mean, everyone's different. Right? Like, if I was. If I never did stand up comedy, and my wife was like, I was still working my job. My wife was like, you know what?
I still want to work, but I want to. I want to learn how to be like, what's the. I wanna. I wanna learn how to do nails. Like, I wanna do like, cool little designs. And I'm like, I don't care. Gonna do it. Yeah, but I'm very like, I'm not like the old school macho guy. Like, you gotta stay at home cooking.
[00:49:09] Speaker A: No, Me nice. Me nice. Yeah, but no, I wouldn't be because then you're gonna be miserable. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, yes. Taking care of kids. I'm sure there are people who genuinely just want to do that, but I don't think that, that 90% of people, they want to do something they want. Maybe even if it's just a hobby. Hey, I want to pick up doing pottery. Go for it, please.
[00:49:29] Speaker B: I think it's very cool that, that we, that we do this standup comedy stuff because of how people come up to me after, like, shows and stuff. They're like, dude, I can't believe that.
[00:49:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:40] Speaker B: You're doing this.
[00:49:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:41] Speaker B: I'm like, what do you mean? They're like, clearly, we can see it in your eyes that this is genuinely. You love to do this.
[00:49:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: And at 35, you're on stage making random people with a dungeon laugh, and he's like, I work at a fucking hedge fund and I hate my fucking life.
[00:49:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:58] Speaker B: But I can't quit it because I have two kids now and I have to. And I pay for a golf course.
[00:50:02] Speaker A: Membership that I. I don't even want to be there.
[00:50:05] Speaker B: I don't want to be at.
[00:50:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:50:06] Speaker B: And I'm just like, I don't know what to tell you, bro, you can do stand up. You can just stand up. That's what you want to do. I'm like, what is your passion? Like, because they always ask me, like, Kimberly, you're so passionate. Or that you like, you have a job and you're. And like you jumped into this, this thing on the side.
[00:50:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: And your wife is also like doing this thing that's super passionate that she's super passionate about. I'm like, you just gotta. It's not about finding someone that's like kind of like minded. It's just like, yo, you just. You gotta be a little selfish, but also be aware that there's other people around you in your life. Like, that's the hardest part for us too, because there's been comics that have gotten divorced. And that's my biggest fears. Like, I don't want to lose my wife over like this comedy thing. But there have been times where I'm like, fuck, man, I would, I can really. I'd really like to go to this mic, but I told my wife that we were supposed to go to fucking a dinner date. And it's like, it's hard sometimes because you have to also like, take a few steps back.
[00:50:56] Speaker A: But that's my biggest problem because I don't have a relationship.
[00:51:00] Speaker B: That's what I say. I think as a single guy too. It's like, you gotta just put the floor.
[00:51:04] Speaker A: Well, that's what I do. I have no. I have no life. And. And it's that. Here's. Here's. This is gonna get real gay.
[00:51:12] Speaker B: No, I'm all for it. We were just talking about trans dog.
[00:51:16] Speaker A: Let's do it.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: I'm here.
[00:51:19] Speaker A: I. So I did 20 minutes in Pennsylvania the other day.
[00:51:22] Speaker B: That church.
[00:51:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:23] Speaker B: That looks so insane.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: Insane.
[00:51:26] Speaker B: How many seats?
[00:51:27] Speaker A: I don't even know.
[00:51:29] Speaker B: It looks so dope.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: It's a great spot. Satire, comedy in Hanover, Pennsylvania. Great spot.
[00:51:34] Speaker B: Throw me up. Come on.
[00:51:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: That looks so cool. It looks so cool.
[00:51:38] Speaker A: It is a great spot. Everyone was.
[00:51:40] Speaker B: And with your stuff.
[00:51:42] Speaker A: Oh my God, I'm telling you. And I never say this. I killed it. I.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: Every time we leave New York, like.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: Every time I'm out of the city, I do well. It's like, I gotta. I'm. I'm better on the road. I just. I'm better because I'm not smart. I do dumb comedy. People on the road, like, not better.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: It's not. You do good comedy. Your is pretty smart. It's not. It's not stupid. It's not like Humpty Dumpty. None of that. Like, you actually have, like. Good stuff.
[00:52:06] Speaker A: Thank you, man. I appreciate that.
[00:52:07] Speaker B: I'm not gonna be hanging, I'm not gonna be hanging around, hanging on the same circles of guys that I'm like.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: This guy, this guy's a idiot.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: Like, we were on the same show with each other at Greenwich that one time and I was like, I told the guys the comments before. I was like, watch this.
[00:52:18] Speaker A: He's going to, he's going to destroy this, people.
[00:52:21] Speaker B: This is going to be so much fun. Because it's either they're going to love.
[00:52:24] Speaker A: Him or they're going to.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: But they're just going to throw candles at him from the table.
[00:52:28] Speaker A: That's it. And I'm okay with that.
[00:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: But I, I, I was, I was sitting there and. And because I don't have a relationship and all my friends are married with kids or their other comics, and I got off stage and I felt that feeling. You know, the feeling. It's your highest.
And I.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: That drip is crazy.
[00:52:45] Speaker A: It's crazy. It's crazier than any. Like, I don't even want to drink after, because part of me does. My brain goes, more pleasure. But then the other part of me goes, ah, the drink's not gonna be even close to that.
[00:52:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: But I'm sitting there and I'm staying outside the club in the middle of nowhere, and this sounds real pathetic. I didn't have anyone to call.
You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't have a significant other where I could be like, hey, babe. Like, you're not going to believe this.
[00:53:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: And you can't call other comics because, what, like, you, you're an. If you go, dude, I just killed.
[00:53:15] Speaker B: You could, though.
[00:53:16] Speaker A: You could. But it's also Joe, I. He was at work, bro.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: Hit me up.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: I'm always there, but still, there's a level. It was like 10 o' clock at night. It was a Saturday night. It's just a level of, like, awareness that I have where I go, they're probably busy. I'm not going to close.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: That's when comedy on the road is. That's what that was.
[00:53:35] Speaker A: That's where it hits, is where you go, wow, okay. And that's how people become heroin addicts and alcoholics.
[00:53:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:53:42] Speaker A: But it was, It's. I have nothing else in my life. I have, obviously, family. I have things I'm not, you know.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: No, I know exactly what you're saying.
[00:53:49] Speaker A: But it's all about comedy.
[00:53:50] Speaker B: It's nice.
[00:53:51] Speaker A: It's cool. But there's that dark side. There is that dark side.
[00:53:54] Speaker B: There is that dark side. That is hard because even if you are with someone and you call them and you tell them, they're just like, nice, so when are you coming home?
[00:54:03] Speaker A: They also don't get it.
[00:54:04] Speaker B: That's my wife.
[00:54:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:06] Speaker B: Like, oh, my God. Like, I fucking ate so much balls on stage. She's like, cool, what do you want for dinner? I'm like, fuck. All right.
[00:54:12] Speaker A: You don't get she. But she's comedy fan or. No, she.
[00:54:15] Speaker B: She likes comedy, but she doesn't like the shit that I like.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. Okay.
[00:54:19] Speaker B: She just, like. We just have different taste. I'm like, cool.
[00:54:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:22] Speaker B: Like, she's just like.
She's an adult. She's like.
[00:54:28] Speaker A: That's the best way to put it.
[00:54:30] Speaker B: She's, like, emotionally intelligent, and I'm not, you know, I'm like, very immature. But, like, she does like comedy. Like, she likes.
She's like, Sam J. You know, Sam J, the comic.
[00:54:40] Speaker A: Oh, black lesbian.
[00:54:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:41] Speaker B: She loves Sam Jay.
[00:54:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:45] Speaker B: But besides that, like, she likes Chappelle, but she liked it before he started doing the whole trans stuff. That's when she lost. That's when he lost her.
[00:54:52] Speaker A: I mean, I thought it was funny. The first special. Second special by the. I'm like, dude, I don't give a.
[00:54:57] Speaker B: She's a huge Chappelle guy.
[00:54:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: I was like, oh, this is cool. Like, when I first saw she. I love Chip. I'm like, oh, great.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: Yeah, Chappelle's great.
[00:55:03] Speaker B: And then she'd be like, yo, I don't want to go see such and such comic at, like, the Bell House in Brooklyn. I don't even know who this person is. I was like, yeah, that's the whole point.
[00:55:09] Speaker A: You learned about somebody.
[00:55:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:55:11] Speaker B: Now she. She likes comedy. She likes to laugh. She's just, like. I said, she's an adult, and she likes different things she likes. Which she enjoys the finer things in life, I guess I just enjoy the.
[00:55:22] Speaker A: I do too, man. I. I was so. I. I had.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: I enjoy the. Bro.
[00:55:25] Speaker A: I was seeing someone recently who we were on the same page with comedy, which was the coolest thing ever. We just laughed at the same things. And it. It ended, obviously. But. And that was the part that hurt me the most of, like, finding a woman who likes what I like.
[00:55:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:40] Speaker A: And I was with someone in la and she did not like what I liked. And she.
[00:55:44] Speaker B: Was she in, like, an entertainment world? Like, was she an actor? No, no.
[00:55:47] Speaker A: She did videography.
[00:55:49] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:55:49] Speaker A: But. Well, the other girl that I was seeing recently, she's not entertainment at all. She just is a fan, like, Kill Tony all the time. Like, that. She was very cool. But my. My ex that I was with for a while, just. I would. I would read her jokes, and she'd go, why can't you just do, like, something else?
[00:56:05] Speaker B: That's how my wife is. My wife is like, though. She's like, what if your sisters hear that?
[00:56:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
Like, I hope she.
[00:56:11] Speaker B: I'm like, my sisters are in college.
[00:56:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:14] Speaker B: Do you remember what you were doing? Like, come on. Right. But you know, some, like, she is like, one of my. My biggest, you know, my toughest critic.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: And also, what you need.
[00:56:22] Speaker B: What I need. Because it's just like, all right, you're right. Like, I do have to work around that. But she's always like, yo, listen, like, everyone knows that you're married to a white chick. Like, we get it enough. And I'm like, so that's a lot of. A lot of things, too. It's like, I always have, like, that constant, like, battle with myself where it's okay. Everyone knows that.
Not everyone. But, like, people know at Mike said, I'm married to a white chick. So I try to move away from that stuff.
[00:56:44] Speaker A: But you can also find a different angle that.
[00:56:46] Speaker B: Find a different angle, Right? And the thing is, like, now it's like, I'm just starting to get, like, booked on shows now where I can actually do my five minutes that I've been working on for the last two years.
[00:56:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Which is hard because it's like, you work on. You work on. On writing new jokes, new jokes, new jokes, new jokes, new jokes. And then you start finally getting booked on shows, and then you're like, do I do my old stuff? Do I do my new stuff? Do I sandwich things in the middle? Like, how do I know if my five minutes is actually good if I'm not actually working it out, if I'm constantly throwing new on the wall? You know? I'm saying it's very hard.
[00:57:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:57:16] Speaker B: But like, I was talking to Cam. Cam Bird.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: Shout out, Cam Bird, love Cam.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: He was like, we ride outside St. Mark's and he's like. He's like, mate, I'm. I'm doing, like, 15 spots a week.
[00:57:26] Speaker A: I'm like, jesus, he's doing more spots.
[00:57:28] Speaker B: 50 spots a week. I just don't know when to throw in the new stuff. I was like, what?
I was like, cam, bro, I get, like. If I get, like, one spot a fucking month, or whatever it is. I'm happy, and I try to do as much as I can in the whatever time that I get. Yeah, but if you're getting 15 minutes a week, bro, I told him, I was like, you should just be either do. Making a nice shit sandwich, like, strong, strong, new, new, new, and then strong at the end.
[00:57:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:57:53] Speaker B: Or just fucking throw shit on the wall and just go. Knew the whole entire time, bro.
[00:57:57] Speaker A: I had the same conversation with him.
[00:57:59] Speaker B: Because I'm like, what, bro? 15 spots at that point, dude. But that's like, how. Like, what he was saying. 15 spots a week. That's like, legit. Like, what these, like, legit pro comics do and stuff like that.
[00:58:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:58:08] Speaker B: And they're always working on new because they get 15 spots a night, bro.
[00:58:12] Speaker A: I. I don't. That's exactly it.
[00:58:14] Speaker B: Isn't that it?
[00:58:15] Speaker A: I said to him, I was like, I don't know how you're not doing new. You have to. Yeah, Mike, I'd be. I would. I would plan it out, and I just. I don't even plan it out. I would probably do one that works. Get them with me. Do this new. Okay, let's see where we're at. Maybe I got to pull them back with an old one. It's the whole point of that is you're thinking on your feet the entire time. It's like.
[00:58:34] Speaker B: That's the beauty of it, though. Yeah, but that's how you have to approach. I mean, not. You don't have to, but, like, that's how I'm.
[00:58:40] Speaker A: I would do.
[00:58:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:58:41] Speaker B: Like, If I have 15 spots next week, dude, you better believe that I'm going to be having fun.
[00:58:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:58:47] Speaker B: I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going to be robotic up there and, like. I mean, an interracial relationship, like. No, I'm going to do my shit, but by, like, the fourth show that week, but.
Oh, dude.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna be loosey goosey up there.
[00:59:01] Speaker B: I'm gonna be throwing shit on the wall that I didn't even.
I thought of right on that spot, and if it hits, cool, I got the recording and then do it all over again. Yeah, but at the same time, if I did have 15 songs, who knows? You never know. But 100.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: I mean, when I'm doing mics, dude, half the time I'm like, all right, today, that's the whole point.
[00:59:18] Speaker B: That's the whole point of the mics.
[00:59:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:19] Speaker B: You either work on new or you're refining your old stuff, or you're Just adding little. Are you doing something differently with, like, your body language or like you're doing something different?
[00:59:26] Speaker A: Something.
[00:59:27] Speaker B: Something.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: Last night, there was the Buddha Room. There was, like, 10 people, 10 audience. They did a fantasy football thing. And I went. I'm like, am I gonna do my new or am I do my old?
And not old, but, like, there's the old old, which I don't really touch unless I need to for a full show. Like, if I'm doing Asian.
[00:59:43] Speaker B: The Asian one?
[00:59:45] Speaker A: No, that one. Not yet. I'm like, like, carpet cleaning, pregnancy, photo shoots. Okay. Like abortion.
But now I'm. I have, like, two stories that I have for five minutes. Like, two stories that actually happened to me where I. Those are. That's the five I usually do now. And I was sitting. I was like, do I do all new shit? And I go.
They were kind of, like, getting bored. And I'm like, I got. I want to do the old shit. Because they came. They. They came for something. Yeah.
And I did it. And I was like, okay.
Sometimes you gotta. You gotta gauge it. It's like, all right. You have to gauge if these people really are having a rough time right now. Let's go with the old shit where I know it'll get them back.
[01:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:00:22] Speaker A: And give them a good show.
[01:00:22] Speaker B: But that comes with time.
[01:00:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:24] Speaker B: That comes with experience. Like, 100%. I know exactly what you're saying. And it's cool, too. It's like, I remember when I used to always just jump right into my set when I started a mic, and now I started doing, like, a little riff off the top.
[01:00:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:35] Speaker B: And sometimes it hits. Sometimes.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: Well, you hit hard at Black Cat.
[01:00:40] Speaker B: Oh, dude, I was. I was thinking that.
[01:00:43] Speaker A: Dude, I saw that you came, but I got lucky.
[01:00:45] Speaker B: That's only because of where I. Where I got up on. On. On that lineup. Because, like, if. If I tried doing that joke, if I was, like, towards the last.
[01:00:52] Speaker A: Yeah. No one would have been remembering it.
[01:00:53] Speaker B: Yeah. What the happened to Alexis?
[01:00:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:00:56] Speaker B: But that was perfect. And even E. Bro, Eli killed. That he murdered.
[01:01:00] Speaker A: Dude.
[01:01:00] Speaker B: It was perfect. It was like, yo, this is it. But that can go either way, bro. Because I've. I've tried, you know, this. We try riffing off the topic, like, oh, no, that didn't even come out.
[01:01:12] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah.
[01:01:13] Speaker B: What the. And then I'll listen to it. I watch. I'm like, like, don't do that again. But then it's like, no, I'm doing something else again.
[01:01:20] Speaker A: No, but you tried something. You try. That's what kills me, dude, we live in a world sometimes where people are so unwilling to just fall on their face. Dude.
[01:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah, dude.
[01:01:30] Speaker A: And that's it.
[01:01:31] Speaker B: But I think it's funny when we, when, when you, when you finally grow enough balls to finally look at it like the way we're looking at it now, it's like you realize it like, oh, why didn't I do this in the beginning?
[01:01:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it's hard because you want to.
[01:01:43] Speaker B: I want to make sure that I'm like, I'm doing this and I'm doing that and it's like.
But I think that's why, like the Plan B mike's that you guys hold, like, it's good because you can get. You build that little community and you can work on just getting more comfortable and being funnier.
[01:01:56] Speaker A: That's it.
[01:01:56] Speaker B: And it sucks because like the days there was a mic that I used to go to on Fridays, every Fridays. It's like the comfy mic at the comic strip at 6pm and they just ended that shit.
[01:02:03] Speaker C: Oh, they did.
[01:02:04] Speaker B: And that was when. Yeah, they just ended it. So if you ever looking for, for a 6pm slot at the Comic Strip to take that over, you might as well go reach out to them. Cause they'll give that shit to you. But.
[01:02:13] Speaker A: Nah, it's a bit too early.
[01:02:13] Speaker B: But yeah, but that was a good one because it was like I was so new to comedy still and that was like the community.
Yeah, before I found you guys, that's when I like, I hung out with those guys, like Ty Marsh and like James Patrick were there and like Peter Stewart and Nebrask. I became friendly with knee Bros, who.
[01:02:33] Speaker A: I co produced the show with Shock Therapy.
[01:02:35] Speaker B: Shock Therapy.
I found out about that mic because I met Nebras at.
We were watching Jeff Asmus on at Rodney's and I was like, you're a comic, right? He's like, yeah. He goes, I'm gonna go do a mic at the Comic Ship. I was like, what? I have never seen anything about this mic online. He's like, oh, no. It's like, well, we know the word gets spread. Word of mouth come through. And I went. And it was dope. But the fucking mic ended. But what I was trying to say was that like, that's why what you guys are doing with the Plan B mic is so dope because like all those that go to your mic are all killers.
[01:03:08] Speaker A: They're all really good.
[01:03:09] Speaker B: They're all.
[01:03:09] Speaker A: They're all really good.
[01:03:11] Speaker B: They're all savages.
[01:03:12] Speaker A: He's. I mean, Corey o', Shea, everybody. Dude, they're. They're really good, though.
[01:03:18] Speaker B: It's insanity, you know, I haven't seen a while who. I follow her on Instagram so much, it cracks me up. Was it Sarah Carson Ford?
[01:03:26] Speaker A: I haven't seen her in a minute.
[01:03:27] Speaker B: She's funny. So funny.
[01:03:28] Speaker A: She's funny, dude.
[01:03:29] Speaker B: She's like, what is. I'm the hottest girl on edibles right now.
[01:03:32] Speaker A: I love yo.
[01:03:33] Speaker B: That is one of the fun, funniest things that I haven't seen in a minute, but she's funny.
[01:03:36] Speaker A: I think she's in Canada right now. Is she back home?
[01:03:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:03:39] Speaker B: She's so hilarious. I haven't seen her in a minute.
[01:03:41] Speaker A: But she's cool, everyone. That's the thing, dude. And I think that. That's the problem. Like, when I did my first open mic, which was I did my first one in 2019, then I didn't touch it again until, like 2021. I did a couple at Eastville and then I stopped. And then 2022 was when I started to hit the ground running.
[01:04:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
And were you still living here?
[01:04:04] Speaker A: I did it first here a couple times, and then it was la, where I really primarily started.
[01:04:08] Speaker B: Where were you doing spot?
[01:04:09] Speaker A: You doing, like, Hollywood comedy, Badger and jam, fourth wall. Like, the whole.
[01:04:14] Speaker B: Is an interesting space.
[01:04:15] Speaker A: Dude. Comedy. Hollywood's an interesting space. That place is, like, eerie.
[01:04:20] Speaker B: That's the one with the red wall, right? The red and black wall?
[01:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that one. That's a weird spot.
[01:04:25] Speaker B: It's an interesting spot.
[01:04:26] Speaker A: And I was hated, dude. Very much so.
[01:04:28] Speaker B: Really?
[01:04:29] Speaker A: Because, I mean, you know me, if. If you don't in la. I mean, my. In la, like. And it wasn't good then either. That's the other thing. It was just me saying crazy. I didn't have any sort of the rhythm, nothing. So I was just going up saying.
[01:04:41] Speaker B: Bro, you're so good up there. It's so crazy. If you guys will ever want. You watch this guy on stage. It's so funny.
[01:04:45] Speaker A: Watch Nico.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: It's like you're.
[01:04:47] Speaker A: You're hypnotizing us into believing into this is this.
[01:04:52] Speaker B: That's why. That's why I love watching you up there, because it's like. And I want to just continue watching you get better because, like, you're very calm, stoic up there.
[01:04:59] Speaker A: Oh, I'm very calm. That's very stoic.
[01:05:01] Speaker B: Very good. And then you're like, bam. And I'm like, oh, that's why it's perfect. That's why it's so funny.
[01:05:08] Speaker A: It's also, when you look at me, you go, he looks like a normal person. I don't look like a comic, you know, I mean, I don't look like. I don't have that demographic.
[01:05:16] Speaker B: It's so. But that's the beauty of it, bro. That's why it's.
[01:05:18] Speaker A: It's a little out of nowhere.
[01:05:20] Speaker B: But I think that's the beauty of, like, what you do up there, too, because it's like, you go up there, and they're like, oh, this guy's gonna be like this. And then it's like, what the is going on here? That's the whole thing about comedy, right? That's how when you see a guy go up on stage or a chick that goes up on stage, it looks so very well polished. And they're wearing, like, a suit.
[01:05:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:05:34] Speaker B: And then they're like. And I. Her into. I'm like, what the.
[01:05:37] Speaker A: It's fun.
[01:05:38] Speaker B: It's a juxtaposition that you.
[01:05:39] Speaker A: I love that you have to.
[01:05:40] Speaker B: It has to be like that.
[01:05:41] Speaker A: And it's. You know, it's interesting now. I was. I used to gross out women for the most part, and last night, there was a bunch of hot girls at the thing, and one of them who had a boy, I'm pretty sure it was her boyfriend. And she came up to me after. I was like, saying, her friend. Their friend did it for the first time. He lost a fantasy football league. And I went up to the guy, I said, hey, good for you, man. Doing your thing. And then one of the girls looks at me, and she goes, hey, you were really funny. And I was like. And I could see the girls laughing when I was doing the jokes. And I went, I'm starting now. I'm Found the way over the hump of, like. Rather than them going, this guy. Now they're. They're starting to go, like, the gross is making them laugh. I don't know what it is. I don't know if there's a little more charm or what, but it's nice to go, all right, we. We got him.
[01:06:24] Speaker B: You.
You either go for it right away or you butter them up a little bit. And then you go.
[01:06:32] Speaker A: And then bomb. Yeah, now it's. It's becoming more like that.
[01:06:35] Speaker B: I think it's gonna be fun.
But that's exactly. Like, when I saw you do this. The stuff. The spot at Greenwich, I was like. Because I remember you were telling me when you posted that. That clip where the. Lydia was like, yeah, horrible.
[01:06:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:46] Speaker B: I was like, oh, my God. I Was like, I got to see. See this, because I know he's not gonna do this. Like, he's like a bomb. There was no bomb. But that lady in the front row was. Stole the show.
[01:06:55] Speaker A: I mean, it was bomb, dude.
[01:06:56] Speaker B: Everyone bombed.
[01:06:57] Speaker A: But I, like, I don't mind bombing on I. And. And doing what I wanted to do.
[01:07:02] Speaker B: The thing is, like, how do you classify a bomb? Because, like, when I think of a bomb, I think of, like, legit, like crickets. And, like, there was no bomb with people. Like, again with me, when it comes to bombing, Like, I'm talking about, like, I'm looking at it more of like, yes, the jokes didn't work. And A, the jokes didn't work, and B, I was not present in the moment to realize what was happening the was going on.
[01:07:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:07:25] Speaker B: And that's what I. What I always say. That's how I bomb. If even if I got laughs, great. But I definitely bombed because I wasn't present in the moment to, like, really catch them right when the end of their life for me to go to the next one. That's kind of how I see it.
I did. I did a Sean on. I think it was Thursday or Wednesday at St. Mark's that I was just trying to chill. Hang out.
[01:07:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:07:46] Speaker B: And this dude, Alfonso Hernandez. Shout out, Alfonso. Happy birthday, dog. It was his birthday show. I was just there to chill, to hang out. He said, you want to do a spot? I was like, oh, yeah, cool. Yeah, absolutely. But I just got to go because my wife. I was about to go date night with my wife.
[01:07:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:08:00] Speaker B: And she's like. Just pulled up because we're gonna get dinner. And he's like, I'll put you up. Bullet spot. Cool.
Host goes up crowd, bro.
Dead death. And I was like.
I was like, oh, my wife is here. Nice.
[01:08:15] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:08:16] Speaker B: This is gonna be great. About to fucking shove this microphone, my ass. Get the fuck out of here. I go up there, bro.
Probably the best set I've ever had.
[01:08:29] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:08:29] Speaker B: Only because I was. And I'm not saying the best that I've ever had in my life because, like, I had the. The. The whole crowd on the floor was not the case.
Best that I've ever had in my life. Because I went up there. I was like, all right, you know what? I'm just going to go up there.
I'm gonna go up there, do my jokes, but I'm not gonna have an actual set list. I'm just gonna go off the top, right? I'm gonna play off, do a little bit of riffing off the top with whatever the host had with some of these people in the crowd. Start off with that a little bit and then I'm gonna go into my.
Dude, it was like maybe like 12 people in there.
It was the most interesting experience. But I think the way that my, my, the way I tell my jokes and my style, I'm very in the pocket. I'm very. I like the silence. Yeah, it was good. But the reason why I said I did I love that set was because I didn't get everyone to laugh together, but I got each table to laugh at a certain point of my set.
[01:09:23] Speaker A: Oh, that's interesting.
[01:09:25] Speaker B: I'm saying.
[01:09:25] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:09:26] Speaker B: Like I got. Okay, there was 12.
[01:09:28] Speaker A: You appealed to all them in different moments.
[01:09:29] Speaker B: Different moments. That's interesting. And I was like, okay, yeah, yeah. I didn't crush. Because I didn't get a. I didn't get one point where the whole room laugh. Yeah, I got a point where like maybe like out of the 12 I got. There was one laugh where I got eight people to laugh, but the four didn't get it. Yeah, but there were points in time in that six minutes that I got in that set where each table I was like, oh my God.
[01:09:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I got it.
[01:09:55] Speaker B: Like I got something.
[01:09:56] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:09:57] Speaker B: Watching the tape, I know exactly what was going. I was, dude, I was never in. I was in the pocket. I was so present. It was embarrassing.
[01:10:04] Speaker A: That's great, dude.
[01:10:05] Speaker B: Did a mic the next day. Ate so many things. I was so sad. I was like, oh man, dude, it was so crazy.
I told. I. I walked out of there with my wife and I was like, that was the best set. She's like, really?
[01:10:19] Speaker A: She's like, really? You must suck, dude.
[01:10:21] Speaker B: I was like, no, you don't get it.
I have the tape. And I was, I was showing the tales. Like every person in that room, each table, they laughed at different jokes. That means that there was something there for somebody.
[01:10:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:10:32] Speaker B: Which is what I want.
[01:10:33] Speaker A: Which is cool.
[01:10:33] Speaker B: But I'm not there yet. But I'm almost at the point where. Okay, what exact. That time where I had eight people laugh. What exactly was it that I said? Yeah, and a lot of it was all personal stuff. They laugh at the personal stuff. I hate it.
[01:10:48] Speaker A: It's why.
[01:10:49] Speaker B: I only hate it because I'm so mad that I didn't start doing this from the beginning.
[01:10:52] Speaker A: Oh but yeah, but that's going to be hard because cuz everyone. And I've said this a million times where you always Think to yourself, I. No one's going to really think that's funny. It's funny because it's me. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. That's the juice, baby. I love the personal.
[01:11:05] Speaker B: That's the mom stuff they love.
[01:11:07] Speaker A: Of course, of course, dude. Of course.
[01:11:09] Speaker B: I was like.
Cuz that one guy comes up to me like a couple weeks ago, he's like, no, I have a Jewish mom. She's nuts.
[01:11:16] Speaker A: Dude, it doesn't matter. You have a mother, you can relate. You know what I mean?
[01:11:19] Speaker B: But my mom is opposite. She, she wants me to do therapy and I don't want to do therapy.
[01:11:23] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:11:23] Speaker B: So it's like, he's like, so you have to go see such and such. And it's like. But then you find out that the lady that she connected you with, the therapist, is her best friend from Bridge. Yeah, they're just talking about me, you know, so it's like. So. Yeah. So I mean, I think just get personal, get fun. Tell your secret. I feel like the more secrets you tell, the better you'll have.
[01:11:42] Speaker A: The more fun you'll have, the more fearless you'll be. That's the thing.
[01:11:46] Speaker B: You know what's crazy?
I was doing therapy before I started doing comedy.
[01:11:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:11:50] Speaker B: Just not, I did therapy, not religiously, but like I was doing it for like a good strong seven months consistently.
[01:11:57] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:11:57] Speaker B: And I started doing comedy. I stopped doing therapy. I should probably, I should probably start doing.
[01:12:01] Speaker A: You probably need it now more than ever. But I, I don't. There's a I. So I've done therapy a million times, but lately I'm going. If I go to therapy, I'll have material, but I'll also maybe work some. I, I like being a little crazy. Does that make any sense?
Yeah, I enjoy it. And I, I want to figure my out. I gotta be able to have a loan.
[01:12:21] Speaker B: You got to be able to have that little pilot on, that little fire in the back just in case on.
[01:12:25] Speaker A: Well, here's the thing. I think if you, I think if you should, you can go have little spurts of therapy. Like, you know what? I, I feel like I need to go back. I'll do six months like, like a bid in jail.
[01:12:34] Speaker B: I know. And then when we say this. But then people that are like in that world, they're like, no, bro, you don't take your vitamins and your antibiotics when you're sick. Yeah, you got to keep it. I get that.
Maybe just a little micro dose of therapy.
[01:12:47] Speaker A: I do a little bit A couple months. And then. And I can't. I'm feeling good again. And then don't. And then go. And then go. You know what I mean?
[01:12:54] Speaker B: I'm not against that. I would. I mean, I'm not against it. I did it 7. I would like to do it again, but at the same. But I'm at that point now where I'm like, I can do therapy for an hour or I can go do a mic.
[01:13:05] Speaker A: I'd rather do a mic.
[01:13:05] Speaker B: And unfortunately, that's my. Clearly, my priorities are a little up right now. My time. Dude, my time right now is so, like, I don't have enough time to do anything, dude. I wake up in the morning, I train clients from like 6am until like 11 or 12, and then I go into my office to work from 12 to like, seven, and then after that I go right to do mics or shows.
[01:13:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:13:22] Speaker B: And then I'm like, you're tired.
[01:13:26] Speaker A: It's. It's brutal, dude.
[01:13:27] Speaker B: It's brutal. But you listen. I love it. So that's the hard part is like, when do you slow down?
Let me burn out all the time. But it's like, I find ways to just to relax and, like, recover. Like, weekends, I don't do comedy unless I have a show.
[01:13:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:13:42] Speaker B: That's the only agreement I have with, like, my wife is like, I'll do anything comedy related unless it's fair. And she's like, fine, I think that's fair.
[01:13:49] Speaker A: Do you feel like.
Because I've. I've met you, I've known you for a little while now, and you never seem like you've ever had a bad day, which I know is not true, obviously, but not true. Do you.
You're really good at just kind of just being a very upbeat, uplifted guy. Would you say comedy?
Did you feel more. I don't want to say, use the word depressed, because I don't know if you're depressed, but did you feel like your life was heavier before comedy or after comedy or during? Before, yeah.
[01:14:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:14:21] Speaker B: 100%.
[01:14:22] Speaker A: So really doing what you wanted?
[01:14:24] Speaker B: I just didn't know what it is that I wanted.
[01:14:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:14:27] Speaker B: And for me, it was like growing up, it was like, oh, I know what I want. I want to just make money.
[01:14:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I want to make money.
[01:14:34] Speaker B: I want to fuck bitches.
[01:14:35] Speaker C: Yeah, That's.
[01:14:36] Speaker A: That's the usual.
[01:14:37] Speaker B: That's like my. My. My addiction growing up was women.
[01:14:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:14:40] Speaker B: I told my wife that. She's like, wow. Like, my addiction growing up was like, I gotta get money.
I gotta get girls and it's just, just rinse and repeat. That was my, my whole thing.
[01:14:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:14:53] Speaker B: Which is not healthy.
[01:14:55] Speaker A: No, it's not.
[01:14:56] Speaker B: Like I talk to a lot of people when I hear their storm. Like, damn. Unfortunately, like the only addiction I had growing up was just women. Like, I just love just.
[01:15:03] Speaker A: Who doesn't?
[01:15:03] Speaker B: Unfortunately, I hate. Like I grew up in a household full of women. I was just like, I can't stand these women.
And it was the worst. It's like I can't. I mean, I love my sisters. I grew up around like five, like five women in my apartment and eight bit in a two bedroom apartment in Queens. So it was just crazy madness.
[01:15:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:15:19] Speaker B: But I don't know, dude, it was just, it was strange. Like my life before doing stand up was. You know what it was because I hit the goals that I wanted to hit in terms of just like financially and career wise. I. I hit them all where I wanted to be at, career wise. Yeah, I got to where I wanted. Obviously there's always room for improvement when. Things like that. But like in terms of like where I'm at, where I came from, where I grew up, and like just being the first kid in my family to like go to college and do all this shit and like, great.
But I always put that chip on my shoulder. Like I was like, I gotta do this, I gotta do that. Like, my parents worked their ass off to send me to like private school and Catholic school. They would always shove it in my face. They'd be like, you're out here partying with your friends and your dad's breaking his bag driving a cab until like 5am you know, like, things like that.
But I don't know, dude, it was like I would always put like all this pressure on me to like, to do like things that in reality never gave me any type of substance.
[01:16:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:16:17] Speaker B: Then I got married.
I started, got together with my wife, got married and then I was like, damn, I lost that, like that, that fire of like, what am I going after?
You know?
[01:16:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:16:28] Speaker B: Cuz I was always good at going after two different things. It was never one thing that I could. I always put all my eggs in the bath. I like to like do 50, 50 and stuff like that. So when I got married I was like, all right, I'm going to be good husband, be a great husband, but I'm gonna like just work my ass off and keep making more money.
Did that. And then I was like, I don't know what to do anymore. Like, I don't have, like, there's something missing. And every time when I would have those moments of just, like, just depression, I would watch stand up or I'd go to comedy shows and it dig me out of that hole, I would be like, oh, my God, I can't believe such and such said that.
And then started one night, I started partying a bunch. I started drinking. It was one of my. It was like a birthday of mine. I started drinking a bunch, and it just. I was just like, newlywed, bro. Like, the ink was still fresh and I was just like, bro, I can't keep living my life without wanting to, like, not. I don't want to have regrets, you know? Like, I don't want to, like, be like, yo, I never got a chance to do this and do that.
And that's when I was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna start doing stand up and see what that does for me. And dude, unfortunately, I hate to be the guy that says it, but it's like, it definitely helped a lot. Yeah, a lot, bro. Like, I wasn't. Dude, it was like, I was like, just the worst person. Like, I. Like you say, yeah, I have, like, I look like I'd never have a bad day back then. I definitely.
I still know how to hide it, but it was like, if you really knew who me? Like, if you knew my wife, she's like, what the, bro? Like, go do stand up. Go do this or go do that. Like, she would always be like, just go.
[01:18:02] Speaker A: There'd be like a black cloud phone. Well, that's the thing with people who are. Who are come off as like, they've never had a bad day. Those are the people I'm always most concerned about because I. A lot of people have told me that, and I have bad days all the time.
[01:18:12] Speaker B: The problem is when you're so, like, outgoing and, like, nice personable, and when you're just like, you want to have a. I want to still go out and, like, go do my stand up. But if I just want to, like, yo, you good?
[01:18:25] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:18:25] Speaker B: You okay? Yeah, I'm. Please don't. Yeah, I'm good, bro. Like, I'm good.
[01:18:30] Speaker A: I'm chilling.
[01:18:31] Speaker B: But it's. But I. But that's also, like, I bring that on myself. Like, that's. Yeah, I can't be like, one day.
[01:18:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:18:39] Speaker B: That's the gift and the curse of being an extrovert.
100 like, I genuinely get so much energy from people when I'm around them.
[01:18:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:18:47] Speaker B: But when I'm dolo, it's bad, bro.
[01:18:50] Speaker A: Me, too.
[01:18:51] Speaker B: It's bad. It's bad for me. And it's like. It's sad because I'm like. And I think that's probably why I enjoy taking the train so much.
[01:18:56] Speaker A: You get to be in your little.
[01:18:58] Speaker B: Like, crazy ass, like, aquarium.
[01:19:01] Speaker A: I have a time limit with people, though. Like, after, like, a couple hours, I'm starting to go, I gotta get the fuck out. I started Irish exiting.
[01:19:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:08] Speaker A: Where I go, I'm out. Like, I'm not telling anybody I'm out.
[01:19:11] Speaker B: I guess. I mean, I get that. I guess it just depends on the. The.
[01:19:16] Speaker A: I think it's giant groups of comics. Like, when it gets more to, like, more than four and everyone starts getting acting full. I. I'm. I'm done. Everyone's trying to get the punchline in. I don't need. I'm not that important. I need to just be. Or. Or I'll go sit in the corner. I've done that before.
[01:19:31] Speaker B: I get that. I get that part.
Yeah. No, it's. It's tough. It's tough because everyone has their. Their little time limit for, like, their social battery only runs for so long.
And my wife is like. My wife is like, I don't want to talk to nobody.
[01:19:47] Speaker A: Yeah, your wife is super chill. When I met.
[01:19:49] Speaker B: Super chill.
[01:19:49] Speaker A: Super, super chill.
[01:19:50] Speaker B: She'll. She'll get exactly what you said. She'll, like, hang out. Hang on. But she's like, all right, I'm done. I'm done here. Whereas I'm like, let's keep going. Let's keep hanging out.
[01:19:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:19:59] Speaker B: If it's. If it's like a big group, like you were saying, like, oh, I'm all for it. But then if it's like. If it's just like a big show like that, I'm like, I can only go for too much.
[01:20:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:20:08] Speaker B: But, yeah, I mean, I definitely think that. I'm not going to say that comedy saved my life, but it's made my life way more exciting.
[01:20:16] Speaker A: That's the thing, dude.
[01:20:17] Speaker B: Because I. Because there's guys out there that. And girls out there that. That comedy literally saved their life. And.
[01:20:22] Speaker A: Oh, well.
[01:20:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I was never like that.
[01:20:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:20:24] Speaker B: But I will say that whenever I was always. Whenever I was sad, like, I always look to comedy to get me out of the mud. So. And that's what I want. I want to. I want to help people out that come to shows that are just, like. They just don't want to know. They don't want to hear about politics. They don't want to hear about this. They don't want you. They just want to hear, like, some stupid.
[01:20:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:20:43] Speaker A: And.
[01:20:43] Speaker B: Or if you're going through the same thing that I'm going to, like, how are you dealing with it?
[01:20:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:20:47] Speaker B: Because if you're dealing with it that way, cool. I want. I need help.
[01:20:50] Speaker A: And it's interesting. After the show, sometimes when people come up to you, like, hey, I thought that was really funny, and they start telling you about their lives, whether. And maybe sometimes that's special. It's cool. They start.
[01:20:59] Speaker B: They're vulnerable, too.
[01:21:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:21:00] Speaker A: And they're like, hey, man, I know. Like you said, I know exactly what you're talking about. And that is a really cool feeling. Or it was like, yo, I had the worst week ever, and I just got to laugh. That's bro. That's it. Like, that is just what we're going for. That's what everyone.
[01:21:13] Speaker B: Isn't that why people watch sports?
[01:21:16] Speaker A: To escape? Yeah, but sports can really upset you.
[01:21:18] Speaker B: Did I turn this off by accident? Oh, you're good. Okay, good. Sports can upset you. But I think.
I thought. I thought I stepped on it by accident.
I feel like that's kind of what sports is about. Like, you just.
[01:21:28] Speaker A: But if your team loses, then you're fucked. Yeah, I guess. But that's like bombing.
[01:21:33] Speaker B: But that's bomb. But it's also like, people, like, when they're having shitty days or whatever, they're just, like, in a shitty point of part of their life right now. Whatever the hell they're dealing with, they. They turn to sports because it just turns their brain off for a second. And then that's why people were getting upset about how when football or whatever sport was getting. They start getting political.
[01:21:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:21:49] Speaker B: They bring politics into it.
[01:21:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
Like, this is where we're just trying to turn our brains off for a second.
[01:21:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:21:57] Speaker B: I have nothing against comics that talk about, like, political stuff. That's like. It is what it is. Cool. And the guys. I do talk about it. Make it funny. The girls that talk about it, you.
[01:22:05] Speaker A: Have to really make it funny.
[01:22:06] Speaker B: Make it funny, right? Fine, make it funny. But it's like, if you just gonna go up there and do like, a TED Talk the whole time, it's like, I hate that you lost me.
[01:22:13] Speaker A: I lost you, man.
[01:22:14] Speaker B: Just like, cool.
[01:22:15] Speaker A: Give me your.
[01:22:16] Speaker B: Give me your point of view, but give me your point of view with jokes. Because that's the whole point we're doing. We're doing comedy, you know?
[01:22:21] Speaker A: Yeah, man.
[01:22:24] Speaker B: Like that joke you have, what you were Doing with the, the shooter in Minneapolis. I was like, yeah, that's something there.
[01:22:28] Speaker A: It's something there. It wasn't that great. I just was like, you know, I'll jump on it. But it's, there's something. I don't know what, but it's like.
[01:22:35] Speaker B: It happened that same day.
[01:22:37] Speaker A: That's a really. The only reason.
[01:22:38] Speaker B: What do you think? You have a fucking brilliant comedy seller take on it.
[01:22:41] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:22:42] Speaker B: It just hits. But listen, it is what it is. But I don't know, man. How did you feel when you started doing comedy? Did you feel like your life was better? It was insane.
[01:22:50] Speaker A: Immediately better.
[01:22:51] Speaker B: I mean, there's ups and downs. Like, everything.
[01:22:53] Speaker A: When I first started doing it, I was proud of myself or I'm doing my thing I want to do. And then lately you had a funk. I, well, but a couple months ago was the real funk where I was just up, dude. I was horrible. I was, I don't know what happened. I was just doing only new and things sucked. And then lately, this is the weird part. I have never been as good as I am right now, which is obviously makes sense because I'm never, I'm doing it as long as today I've been crushing. And it's because I'm, I'm riffing, I'm talking. It's me talking.
[01:23:26] Speaker B: It's yourself.
[01:23:27] Speaker A: It's myself.
[01:23:27] Speaker B: Yourself.
[01:23:28] Speaker A: And it's.
[01:23:29] Speaker B: They're like, oh, this is the same guy we talk to outside.
[01:23:31] Speaker A: Exactly. And even the comics have said, like, starting back in July, end of July, there were people who were like, I, I, I'm seeing you, dude. I'm seeing you up there. And I was like, thank you.
[01:23:39] Speaker B: That's the best.
[01:23:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:23:41] Speaker A: Compliment to get.
[01:23:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:23:43] Speaker B: At, bro.
[01:23:44] Speaker A: Ever, Ever.
[01:23:45] Speaker B: For me, in my opinion, I think that's the best confidence, the best compliment you can get because that shows that you're confident up there and you're slowly getting a feel for like. I think I can get an idea.
[01:23:54] Speaker A: What my voice is like, exactly.
[01:23:56] Speaker B: Obviously it's gonna take more time, but I think in a way, like, when you're, when we us that we started comedy, I mean, you started like in 2019, but it's like you're in your 30s.
[01:24:04] Speaker A: Well, I did it in 2019.
[01:24:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:24:06] Speaker A: I've only been doing it two years.
[01:24:07] Speaker B: Really, but it's like still. It's like we're still in our 30s. We can still kind of figure out.
[01:24:10] Speaker A: Oh, of course, dude.
And, and we've had way more life experience. That's the upper hand here.
[01:24:15] Speaker C: Here.
[01:24:16] Speaker A: In that sense.
[01:24:16] Speaker B: See, when people say that, I'm always like, so do I have to talk about it?
[01:24:20] Speaker A: No, but you know that you look at the world with a different perspective.
[01:24:22] Speaker B: Is that what that means?
[01:24:23] Speaker A: I think that's what that means. I don't think it means you have to talk about it. I think that you are. Have a. More aware.
[01:24:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:24:28] Speaker A: Your thinking is a little less. In a vacuum.
[01:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Because when people say that, I'm like, yeah, but I'm not gonna talk about all that. But no, I see what you're saying.
[01:24:34] Speaker A: You know, you're just able to look at a topic, seen some.
[01:24:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:24:38] Speaker B: Or you see some. So you know how to approach it a different way.
[01:24:40] Speaker A: Exactly.
But comedy, dude, it did. It did wonders for me. It really did. It made me a better. Maybe a better person, made me more confident. It made me more. It made me understand that it's here. You could say whatever you want, and if as long as your intention is good, you're fine. But I. I will say the. The extreme lows right now. The. The highs are so high. Like, when I'm getting ready to go there and I do. Well, it's great. And then when I'm driving home, so, like, it's. It's great, but the lows are there. And thank God I don't drink as much as I used to.
I. I go home and I'm just kind of like.
It's weird. Like, I'm having a blast up there. And then you, like. If you had a. Like a smash cut from me leaving the stage, and it's great. And then to hear my kitchen having takeout, it just. It's. It's a sad. It's. Sometimes it would. It would be a sad juxtaposition.
[01:25:29] Speaker B: It's literally the lifestyle we chose.
[01:25:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:25:32] Speaker B: That's the sad part that no one ever talks about, like, the behind the.
[01:25:37] Speaker A: Scenes of, like, ever.
[01:25:38] Speaker B: It's always like, oh, yeah.
But the amazing.
[01:25:40] Speaker A: It's amazing. If you saw where I'm going after, it was not amazing.
[01:25:43] Speaker B: Tough, dude. It's tough because, I mean, listen, we're all. We're all clowns, but we put paint on our face in a way. On stage, you can't see the pain, but it's there.
[01:25:52] Speaker A: It should be spoken about. And people will be like, well, you love what you're doing. There's always a dark side of everything that you love what you're doing.
[01:25:58] Speaker B: But that's the thing. Think people. Just because you love what you do doesn't mean you can't have a bad day.
[01:26:01] Speaker A: That's. That's what I mean, where people are like, oh, you. You don't like it anymore.
[01:26:05] Speaker B: You can have a great marriage. You can be in a. In a. In a pickle.
[01:26:07] Speaker A: Yes.
There are bad years, there are good years.
[01:26:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Listen, it is what it is, but at the end of the day, the whole point is you just keep your head down. You keep going.
[01:26:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:26:16] Speaker A: You still know that this is the thing you want to be doing. That's it.
[01:26:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:26:19] Speaker A: This is a person I love. This is the thing I love. I know there's going to be conflict. Without conflict, you don't. There's no love.
[01:26:25] Speaker B: You need a little resistance, bro.
[01:26:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:26:26] Speaker B: A little resist. That's how you get stronger. And imagine if you just kept crushing. If you keep crushing and you're still risking your crushing, I'm like, oh, you hit the next. The next level.
[01:26:36] Speaker A: Yeah, you're there.
[01:26:38] Speaker B: But we'll never know till we keep doing it.
[01:26:41] Speaker A: Keep on going.
[01:26:42] Speaker B: That's the. That's the best part about it, is that you can do so well one day, and then the next, not even you could be doing the same one on that same day. And then going to another spot, you're like, oh, okay.
[01:26:52] Speaker A: I guess the best thing, I think in that sense, like, it there is. It's so good for you, but it's instant gratification.
[01:27:00] Speaker B: You find out whether it works or not. I think that's the beauty of comedy. Right.
[01:27:03] Speaker A: But it's not always right. I think that's thing. It may not work this room, and then it works that room, and then it doesn't work this. So, like, it is instant gratification, but you have to go.
[01:27:12] Speaker B: You have to test that out somewhere else.
[01:27:14] Speaker A: Exactly. You have the data and you do it enough. You do enough where I go, okay, it works 60% and it didn't work 40. But you know in your heart of hearts, I know this works 80. I really know it works 80. No, that's the gut feeling.
[01:27:26] Speaker B: Do you ever write something and then you do it and you're like, I can't do that one again.
[01:27:30] Speaker A: Nah.
[01:27:31] Speaker B: Right.
[01:27:32] Speaker A: Never did.
[01:27:33] Speaker B: How many times you do. You give it a go until you're like, ah, let me scrap, or let me just put this on ice for.
[01:27:38] Speaker A: A little bit until I realize I don't care about it. There have been jokes.
[01:27:41] Speaker B: How many times you think you.
[01:27:41] Speaker A: I don't know. It could be honestly twice where I'm just like, I'll just like I'm throwing it away. Like, I Need something to talk about.
[01:27:47] Speaker B: About.
[01:27:47] Speaker A: And then there could be times where I do it 10 or 15 and I go, either maybe there's something missing and I'll come back to it, or I just don't care about it.
[01:27:54] Speaker B: Yeah, but you know what it is? It's like, that's the thing, dude. It's like I've been starting to go. I've been starting to go out to Brooklyn now.
[01:28:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I need to do that.
[01:28:04] Speaker B: I've been starting to go out to Brooklyn now and I'm so pissed that I haven't been doing this since the beginning because I'll do my stuff, you know, I'll hit the mics all over the city, I'll do my. And then, you know, you see the same comics there. Yeah, you're like, like, I want to get fresh eyes or fresh ears on this stuff. So that's why I started going out to Brooklyn.
[01:28:25] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:28:25] Speaker B: And so if I, My whole thing is like, if I go, if I'm working on something and it's not working and it's not working and it's not working and it's not working and I do it in many different rooms.
[01:28:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:28:35] Speaker B: Then so obviously something's up.
[01:28:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:28:40] Speaker B: But I definitely give it like double digit tries, which is fair.
[01:28:42] Speaker A: I think it's.
[01:28:43] Speaker B: But I, I try moving things around, tuning it up, but if it's after, after 10 times, I'm trying at 10 different spots, then I'm like, am I saying, am I like, Ari Shafir has.
[01:28:56] Speaker A: A, has a take on this. He said he thinks 100.
[01:28:58] Speaker B: No, 100.
[01:28:59] Speaker A: He goes a hundred times. Then you know if it works or not.
[01:29:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with that. But I think it's because we're still so new that we don't.
You know what it is, bro? We, if we get like the cam bird 15 spots a week, then yeah.
[01:29:15] Speaker A: Yeah, we can figure it out.
[01:29:17] Speaker B: Open micrs.
You see what I'm saying? Yeah, there's probably that I put on ice that I should have been, that I should have kept going. And when I do bring them out and I, I work at them with this new version of me, it's like, oh my God. Yeah, nothing changed. I just, I bought the joke out out of nowhere because I haven't done it in like six months and I haven't. Nothing changed. I have. I just wanted to bring it out for the first time in six months and it rips. And I was like, that's guys. Because I said the same joke, same way. Maybe not clearly, maybe not Same way. But like, I. I feel like I'm way more into it.
[01:29:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:29:49] Speaker A: Could be your body language.
[01:29:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:29:50] Speaker A: You know, and you don't even realize it is that.
[01:29:53] Speaker B: And also, like, the. If you can win the crowd over in terms of, like, they can. Someone know who you are.
[01:29:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:29:59] Speaker B: Then. Yeah. But it's like, I want them to laugh at my jokes not because they think I'm fun up there.
That's the hard part. But that's also part of the job. Right.
[01:30:06] Speaker A: It's part of it too.
[01:30:07] Speaker B: I don't want to be like, oh, they're only laughing because he's handsome.
[01:30:09] Speaker A: Who was I talking about? Well, most people don't like handsome on stage. That's the other thing. But I was talking about.
[01:30:15] Speaker B: They don't like handsome.
[01:30:16] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm telling you, I. That's. We have a. We have a.
[01:30:19] Speaker B: It's tough. They don't like handsome.
[01:30:20] Speaker A: There was.
[01:30:21] Speaker B: Who was I talking about with this.
[01:30:22] Speaker A: Where we were.
Oh, that. Sometimes the joke doesn't even. It should be as good as you can get it, but you can hypnotize people with enough confidence if. If it's got legs and you're confident enough when you say it.
[01:30:36] Speaker B: Isn't that how we. How we pick up girls?
[01:30:38] Speaker A: That's the thing. It may not be the best pickup line, but you say it with enough gusto where they go, oh, that is. It's selling that. That is the thing. And I think that's what I've been getting better at. Do you think Selling the insanity.
[01:30:50] Speaker B: That. But that's it.
[01:30:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:30:52] Speaker B: That's the act.
[01:30:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so.
[01:30:53] Speaker B: Comedy, right?
[01:30:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:30:55] Speaker B: You have to say it every single time so they believe.
[01:30:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:30:59] Speaker B: And it has to sound like it's the first time you said it.
[01:31:01] Speaker A: Exactly. And. And the other thing is, if they don't get it at the first. There have been times, jokes where I'm like. Where I say this thing and I look at them, I'm like, you know what I'm talking about? And then it gets them. It's like. They're like, yes. Yeah. I was thinking that.
[01:31:14] Speaker B: Do you think you can really hit a joke 100 times in a row?
[01:31:18] Speaker A: Do you think personally, like, that'll land every time?
[01:31:20] Speaker B: Like. Like the way Ari was saying it.
[01:31:22] Speaker A: I don't know about hitting it 100 times. He's saying, trying it.
[01:31:24] Speaker B: Do you think you can try it a hundred times?
[01:31:26] Speaker A: Probably. There's one.
[01:31:27] Speaker B: So he's saying after a hundred times.
[01:31:29] Speaker A: If you know if it works or it doesn't, that you have to test it a hundred times. That's when you can say if it works.
[01:31:35] Speaker B: That's hard.
[01:31:35] Speaker A: It's hard. I will say there's jokes that I have done a hundred times. I would say at this point that I know. Hit, hit. Like, I know you have your.
[01:31:44] Speaker B: You have your.
[01:31:45] Speaker A: There are some where I go, okay, this one works. And even if it doesn't work, I know it works. And you know what I mean? That was on them.
[01:31:51] Speaker B: That's the best part is when you're like, I got something here. And then I know. And then now they add, like, you throw it into your. Like your little tool bag.
[01:31:58] Speaker A: Yeah, okay.
[01:31:58] Speaker B: I know this can work, but. Yeah, that's an interesting.
If I had to work on a bit for like a hundred straight times, you know, I'm gonna try it.
[01:32:08] Speaker A: You could do it, dude.
[01:32:09] Speaker B: I do get a complex about it, though, because I'll see, like, if. I'll see, like, some comics that I have seen it already.
[01:32:14] Speaker A: I'm like, I. I hate. Yeah, I hate that also.
[01:32:16] Speaker B: I can't wait to grow out of that.
[01:32:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. It's nonsense.
[01:32:19] Speaker B: Some days I'm like. And then other days I'm like.
[01:32:21] Speaker A: But there have been people I've seen do that where they repeat the same joke and I still laugh just as hard.
So I go.
[01:32:27] Speaker B: And the thing is, like, I'll see big acts. Big acts. I'll see them at either at the Cellar or some comedy club out there. And I'm like, oh, this is their don't tell set.
[01:32:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:32:37] Speaker B: And they're crushing. And I'm like. And in my head I'm like, no, none of these people know this. Yeah, I know this.
[01:32:44] Speaker A: I'm laughing, but I'm like, they're repeating the shit.
[01:32:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:32:48] Speaker A: This is not like they're coming up with new shit every night.
[01:32:49] Speaker B: And in my head I'm like, how do I approach this? Yeah, how am I approaching this? The right way? Cuz I'm trying to go up, do new jokes all the time, but I'm not working on my crap.
[01:33:02] Speaker A: No, you need to have your. Your shit solidified.
[01:33:04] Speaker B: What are you doing? Like, what are you doing?
[01:33:06] Speaker A: Personally?
[01:33:06] Speaker B: Cuz I don't. Cuz I'm like, I think I have it figured out. But then I'm like, I just saw some rip a room so hard.
[01:33:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:33:17] Speaker B: Like, it almost felt like he took his belt off and beat everyone in the ass.
[01:33:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:33:22] Speaker B: So everyone was down.
[01:33:23] Speaker A: They liked it.
[01:33:24] Speaker B: And it was. It was. I've never seen him do this shit. Was New shit. And I was like, oh, my God.
And then I saw him do another spot, another night, and it was this don't tell set and did the same exact, like, reaction. I was like, what. What the Is going on here?
[01:33:38] Speaker A: Well, no, you got to refine your. I think.
[01:33:40] Speaker B: But what's your whole, like, approach on, like.
[01:33:43] Speaker A: I mix it up.
[01:33:44] Speaker B: 5.
[01:33:44] Speaker A: I mix it up. I. I've done. I have a 5 where I know I have two fives right now where I. And I think my second one is better than my first one. But I mix up, dude. I. I'll piece things together where I'll go.
I. I'm realizing I enjoy the. My personal storytelling where I tell the people.
[01:34:03] Speaker B: You're a good storyteller. You got a story. You got a good. That story about when you went to Chicago and you took.
My bad.
[01:34:13] Speaker A: I'll cut that.
[01:34:15] Speaker B: It's a good one.
[01:34:15] Speaker A: That's my favorite.
That is my. Now I do that, and then I have this dirty talk thing, and I tie it together, and then I end it with a political thing.
[01:34:25] Speaker B: So you're like. Are you, like. You're not, like, doing the whole, like, non sequitur thing? You're like. You're flowing. Your set. Your set is a flowing.
[01:34:31] Speaker A: It's pretty flowy. It's pretty. I like to flow it. And then there are times where I'll purposely, like, I have those two stories, and then I do my Vatican bit, and I make the segue after that story of me, like, this most bizarre thing ever, and I go, so you guys fans of the Vatican? Like, and it's that insane of a segue where it almost still flows, if that makes any sense.
[01:34:49] Speaker B: No, I get exactly what you're saying.
[01:34:51] Speaker A: So. But at Mike's, dude, I'm constantly.
[01:34:54] Speaker B: Are you. Are you trying to, like, refine the shit or you just doing new stuff all the time?
[01:34:58] Speaker A: In my mix, I mix it. It's all mix. I'll be like, all right, I'm gonna do that. Joe, I haven't done that joke in three days. I'm gonna do that joke again. And then I got this new. I want to work on. But I've been. I've been writing on stage more than anything, so I've been doing.
[01:35:09] Speaker B: That's all I've been doing.
[01:35:10] Speaker A: It's. I. I find it more interesting. I find it more fun.
[01:35:13] Speaker B: But it shows because of how you're.
[01:35:15] Speaker A: Up there now, that thing. I'm more conversational. Even if.
[01:35:17] Speaker B: Dude, just. I'm telling you because I watch your videos. You Guys post up. You, Joe, all these guys that are in that circle that they just posted reels up and I watch it and you can just tell, especially with your stuff recently, like in your shoulders, you're.
[01:35:30] Speaker A: Not up here now you're like, oh, way more. I'm way more.
[01:35:32] Speaker B: Way more. Chill.
[01:35:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:35:33] Speaker B: In the beginning you're like, like, you can tell. You're like, oh, yeah, there you go. Now you're like, way more. And it shows because if you're right, if you're lax up there, the audience is gonna be like, this guy is doing it.
[01:35:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:35:44] Speaker A: And the second you walk up, they're gonna feel a body language vibe. Even if they're not thinking about this guy's been here before.
[01:35:50] Speaker B: Immediately.
[01:35:51] Speaker A: Yeah, immediately.
[01:35:52] Speaker B: So you, you ever go up there and just do brand new. Just try to do a new 5.5it.
[01:35:57] Speaker A: Shower Mike at a mic.
[01:36:00] Speaker B: Let's do a mic Mike. I've done that at my shows. And that's the worst part because if it goes well, I get the biggest hard on.
[01:36:08] Speaker A: I'm like, and if it goes bad, you just want to kill yourself.
[01:36:10] Speaker B: No, if it goes bad, I'm like, I knew that's why I went bad.
[01:36:13] Speaker A: Oh, it's a cop out. That's a cop out.
[01:36:16] Speaker B: I was like, I went back, I was like, I'm doing new shit out of show. It didn't go well because obviously it's new. But if it crushes, I'm like, let's do.
[01:36:24] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:36:25] Speaker B: But that's how I. That's like, that's the adrenaline that I get right now. Like, I'm like, okay, I'm just going to do new jokes.
[01:36:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:36:33] Speaker B: Like if I only have. Let's say I have, they give me a five minute spot. Let's say, like it's like a Drew show. Yeah, I'm going to do new shit.
[01:36:40] Speaker A: Yeah, why not try it out?
[01:36:41] Speaker B: I'm like, bro, it's a good room.
[01:36:42] Speaker A: To do it in.
[01:36:42] Speaker B: Especially if it's like a three person bringer.
It. Whatever. Yeah, I'm gonna do it.
But honestly, if I'm being honest with you, dude, that's kind of how I've been moving the last, like probably since the spring. I'm just like, I just do. I just try to do new stuff at.
[01:37:06] Speaker A: And I think mixing it up is important because then you could piece the five together. You know this joke. You know this joke. I'll do those together on a show.
[01:37:12] Speaker B: And the weirdest part, bro, is because I'm, I'm throwing in, like, I'M doing new stuff. Like, let's say if I. They give me a longer window. Like, if they give me like a 10 minute.
[01:37:20] Speaker A: Yeah, bro.
[01:37:22] Speaker B: I'll like, I'll sprinkle in my old.
And it hits so much harder.
[01:37:26] Speaker A: And I'm like, oh, my God, 100%.
[01:37:27] Speaker B: The is happening here.
[01:37:28] Speaker A: And that's great knowing.
[01:37:29] Speaker B: And I've also ate balls many times, but I'm like, whatever. But still it's like, am I. Is this. Am I figuring it out? Like, is this like kind of like how, like the way you're saying where you just like mix it all up.
It's weird.
But I also. I'm also like, what do I have to lose?
[01:37:46] Speaker A: You have nothing to lose, bro. That's the part that drives the thing crazy.
[01:37:49] Speaker B: So what do I have to lose?
[01:37:50] Speaker A: Just do it. Yo. Just do it. Just shut the up. You're 30 years old. Like, stop being a. Just go ahead. There's scarier. There are people who jump out of airplane.
[01:37:58] Speaker B: That's why those competitions, like, those competitions, like, I did them last year. Fine, cool. Whatever. But the problem with those competitions with me was that I was competitive with it to the point where I was like, I'm only going to be drilling this five minutes.
[01:38:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:38:11] Speaker B: And I was in, like focusing on. On.
[01:38:14] Speaker A: I would have never approached it that way. I would have done five once and then I would have done a different five. I'm. I'm so consumed with like wanting to have.
[01:38:22] Speaker B: I just like the thing.
[01:38:23] Speaker A: A lot of.
[01:38:24] Speaker B: That's the thing. Right. I was only a year in and I was like, I have to do i5, like everyone always says. So when I. I did it at the. I did like a tight pants competition.
[01:38:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:38:33] Speaker B: And I did a five that. And I won that one.
And then I did the comfy clash thing and it was a completely. It was like a seven or eight minute spot. I did completely different jokes.
[01:38:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:38:43] Speaker B: And I was like. At that point, I was like, oh, my shit's working. Because I won those two competitions from just new different stuff. And I was like, all right.
So I started approaching all the shows and stuff that I get. I'm just like, it. I'm just gonna. And if it doesn't hit, I have tried and true jokes and I can throw in.
[01:39:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:39:00] Speaker B: And that might work maybe depending on how much of a hole I dug myself in.
[01:39:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:39:04] Speaker B: But it's like now I'm glad that I'm at the point now where I can do that, but I wish I can get at the Point where if I see, like, you or Joe or, like, Dave Rivera out of Mike. They heard me do this two weeks ago. I can't do this again.
[01:39:15] Speaker A: No, I need.
[01:39:16] Speaker B: I need to grow out of that part.
[01:39:17] Speaker A: That part. I don't know why you gotta just go. All right. No, I suppose you just gotta say the. Into the mic again.
[01:39:22] Speaker B: It's like, oh, they saw me with this. This outfit already. I look like a. You know, I start acting like a. Oh, they saw me with these Jordans.
[01:39:27] Speaker A: No, if it's like seven months and you're doing this the same exact five, every time, I would probably say something, I'd be like, nico, like, bro, why haven't you written anything new?
[01:39:35] Speaker B: But that's the thing, right? It's like that. See, that's the thing. That's the question I have for you, is that, like, we know comics that.
[01:39:41] Speaker A: Do that, and that drives me a little nuts if it's that long.
[01:39:45] Speaker B: And the problem is, they're, like, passed at clubs.
So in my head, I'm like, what are we doing wrong now? I'm not. Now I'm not trying to compare myself. I'm just saying, like, do I. Am I supposed to keep working on my shift for, like, seven months? Where it's like, I'm at that hundred times that I've said, what do you want to do?
Not that.
[01:40:05] Speaker A: So then. Then that's the answer.
[01:40:07] Speaker B: Because you want to keep working on.
[01:40:10] Speaker A: Your threes, or do you want to learn how to dunk?
[01:40:12] Speaker B: That's the thing that. It's like, I enjoy doing it, and it's. I've never been one to compare myself to any other comic. But it's also, like, I'm gonna respect a comic that's, like, doing their thing, and.
But sometimes I'll see their act, and it's like, oh, this is the same stuff they did that I saw them do, like, last year, but they did do something a little different.
[01:40:33] Speaker A: No, there's nothing worse than that, bro. If you ask me. I think you look at people like, oh, he's still doing that joke. Like, he's still.
[01:40:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:40:39] Speaker A: How the. How good.
[01:40:41] Speaker B: At what point? At what point are you, like, oh, he's still doing. At what? Like, what's the. Like, it can't just be seven months.
[01:40:46] Speaker A: No, I don't think so. But I don't know, man. There's. That. I have. That are really. I believe, are really good. And I haven't tossed because I'm like, I'm gonna need that at some point.
[01:40:54] Speaker B: But there's comics that like. Like, the old model was like, 10 years, and then you do a special.
[01:41:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:41:01] Speaker B: So you're telling me that I would. Ten years, you got to do the same job?
[01:41:04] Speaker A: I mean, I wouldn't do it, I don't think. No, no, that's not true. Because you. You would have gone through shit already. You would have. You would have been like, you're not.
[01:41:12] Speaker B: Doing an hour, so I guess you can definitely come up with other shit, right?
[01:41:16] Speaker A: No. To me, the testament of a good comic is not the first five that he comes up with. It's the second five he comes up with. You know what I'm saying? Like, the first year, I came up with five minutes, and I go, oh, wow, I got this. And then I go, I need to come up with something new now.
[01:41:34] Speaker B: Do you think that's just because that's how we are now? Like, the world is nowadays where we just have to constantly pump out new.
[01:41:39] Speaker A: No, I think that's comedy. I think I was always comedy. I've heard comics go like, oh, God, he's doing the same act from 20 years ago, 100.
[01:41:45] Speaker B: That. That's the truth.
[01:41:46] Speaker A: I've heard Rogan talk about it.
[01:41:47] Speaker B: But it's like, we all remember, like, jokes from certain specials that we admire and all these comics, right? Yeah, we love those specials. And I. Do you feel like nowadays there's certain specials where you're just like, I'm gonna remember that?
[01:42:00] Speaker A: No, I think the specials. There's so much content. I don't even think it's comedy. I think it's the.
[01:42:05] Speaker B: So what do you think it is? How do you think we, like, we break out of that just by just.
[01:42:07] Speaker A: I don't know, just new all the time? I guess. So. I. I don't think that there's anyone that remembers anything anymore now.
[01:42:14] Speaker C: You know what I mean?
[01:42:15] Speaker A: What do you think is maybe out of the frame?
[01:42:16] Speaker B: What do you think is going to be, like, the.
Do you think that special should be, like, 10 minutes long?
[01:42:24] Speaker A: No, no, I. I still think they should be an hour, but I don't think they have the same impact as, like, Eddie Murphy's Raw, you know? I mean, like, it was different. There wasn't as much out there, you know? I mean, whereas now there's. You can go on Netflix and find 30 specials.
[01:42:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:42:41] Speaker A: You don't even know who the people are.
[01:42:43] Speaker B: But, okay, so when people say, like, yo, you got to write, you got to write, you got to write, are we talking about writing new jokes or, like, writing and refining your Shit, I think both.
[01:42:50] Speaker A: I think.
I think it's everything. But I'm telling you, dude, when I have.
[01:42:53] Speaker B: That's the war I have with myself, the internal battle. I have myself all the fucking time.
[01:42:58] Speaker A: Your first five that you came up with, this is my. This is not the same.
[01:43:01] Speaker B: It's not the five that I do now. I can tell you that.
[01:43:03] Speaker A: Okay. But that shows that you could still be doing this if you wrote 1 5, and that's the only five you've been doing for a year. You write the second five to go prove to yourself. Because after I had my first five, I go, how am I gonna come up with another five minutes? And I did. And I go, okay. No, I'm a comic. I can do this.
[01:43:18] Speaker B: The problem, though, is I have fives. Like, I have multiple fives.
[01:43:22] Speaker A: Some are B, some are A, some.
[01:43:23] Speaker B: Are C. But that's why can't I make the C's? A's.
[01:43:26] Speaker A: You can. You got to work on it.
[01:43:27] Speaker B: That's the problem. How long am I going to see?
[01:43:29] Speaker A: I don't know, dude.
[01:43:30] Speaker B: That's the problem.
[01:43:31] Speaker A: You know what it is? It's like, sometimes it takes. Here's the thing, A human it. Nine months.
[01:43:35] Speaker B: Jokes are never done.
[01:43:37] Speaker A: Well, that. Jokes are never, they're never done. But I'll put it to you like this. This would make sense to me. It takes nine months to childbirth for a human, for an elephant. I don't know if this is right or not. It could take 11 for a leopard. It could take a year for a fucking. It's. Every joke is different. Every five is different. Sometimes you have a joke and it just hits.
[01:43:55] Speaker B: But if you're working on a joke and you're actually genuinely working on it for a year, it has to be good.
[01:44:00] Speaker A: Oh, I think so. I would think so. But I do think if you're doing the same exact routine, if you have a joke from two years ago that you pop in the five that you have now with the new. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I just, I'm like, yo, you.
[01:44:13] Speaker B: That's how I feel about, like, the, the being married to a white chick. Like, I try not to throw that into the mix anymore because it's like.
[01:44:19] Speaker A: It'S there if you need it. And when it's like, when I do.
[01:44:22] Speaker B: Pull it out, Silver Bullet, it works. I'm like, ah, man, I, I, I beat myself up about that because I'm like, that was like.
[01:44:29] Speaker A: That was like that. Or sometimes the audience needs that.
[01:44:31] Speaker B: Like, sometimes you need to eat McDonald's yeah. Sometimes you need a little fast food, I guess.
[01:44:35] Speaker A: Exactly. Like you're hungry. Here, eat this. It's quick.
[01:44:38] Speaker B: Hold on. Let me go piss. I gotta pee.
[01:44:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm getting too. What time is it?
[01:44:40] Speaker B: What time is it?
[01:44:42] Speaker A: Oh, we've been at it for two hours. We're done. We should cut this.
All right, Nico, you're the man.
[01:44:48] Speaker B: That was fun.
[01:44:49] Speaker A: Thank you.
[01:44:49] Speaker B: I literally couldn't probably keep doing this forever.
[01:44:51] Speaker A: Dude, we went in on the comedy. I don't normally talk this much about comedy.
[01:44:54] Speaker B: I'm sorry.
[01:44:55] Speaker A: No, don't worry.
[01:44:55] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[01:44:57] Speaker A: We want to drop your socials.
[01:44:59] Speaker B: Come find me. Come find me. Find me on Instagram.
Pico de Gallo 13p I k o D E G A l l o 13 Instagram.
[01:45:09] Speaker A: And he also runs a show with Nebras, who's also a great comic. Shock therapy.
[01:45:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:45:14] Speaker A: Where is it?
[01:45:15] Speaker B: Yoke, we do our shows at. At the Harry Lemon down on the Lower east side. But if you want to follow us on that. It's a shock therapy comedy.
[01:45:22] Speaker A: They literally electrocute people while they're doing comedy.
[01:45:24] Speaker B: It's fun.
[01:45:25] Speaker A: It's great. It's honestly one of my favorite things.
[01:45:26] Speaker B: If you're a comic and you want to actually hop on the show, just pull up and just support. And we have a thing where you can put your name in the bucket and you get pulled out. You could do five minutes, or if you stay till the end, we'll pull you out and you could do 10 minutes on the next show. So we get people.
[01:45:39] Speaker A: That's dope. I like that.
All right, man. Anything else?
[01:45:43] Speaker B: Am I forgetting anything, my man? Yeah. You got a nice place here. I like it.
[01:45:46] Speaker A: Thank you.
[01:45:46] Speaker B: Finally get to see it.
[01:45:47] Speaker A: Dude, this is. This is.
[01:45:48] Speaker B: This is where the famous feet episode.
[01:45:50] Speaker A: That happened right here, dude, right here.
[01:45:52] Speaker B: I can smell Cam Bird's feet.
Where's Eli Moroney?
[01:45:55] Speaker A: Eli's. You're sitting in Eli. All right, guys, thanks for watching Nico. You're the man.
[01:46:00] Speaker B: You have any shows about the boring comedy talk?
[01:46:02] Speaker A: No, it wasn't boring. I mean, them dudes for us, boring. You got any shows coming up?
[01:46:07] Speaker B: I got one next Saturday in.
In Bushwick at a bar called Gems Bar Lounge. It's like two blocks away from the tiny cup or. I don't know, but. All right, go on my Instagram and find out. Dm.
[01:46:18] Speaker A: This will be out before then, so that's perfect.
[01:46:19] Speaker B: Cool.
[01:46:20] Speaker A: All right, thanks, guys. Until next time.
Later.
