# 10 - Joe Gerbo

Episode 10 • May 27, 2025 • 01:29:53
# 10 - Joe Gerbo
Chaos & Clarity with Harrison Marx
# 10 - Joe Gerbo

May 27 2025 | 01:29:53

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Joe is a stand up comedian originally from Arizona, he moved to New York to pursue comedy a few years ago. I met Joe about a year ago, we started Plan B Comedy together. We run a biweekly open mic called Avenue B(omb) at Eastpoint in Alphabet city, and we produce a monthly comedy show called Comedy Kills. Besides a "work colleague" i consider Joe an incredibly good friend of mine, and he's one of the funniest guys I know. In this episode we touched on topics like comedy (of course), the different genres of it, types of audience members, energy/presence on stage & off, the difference between actors and comics, masturbation, horror stories on stage, politics, opening up as a man, and more hot takes on nonsense i'm sure.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, we're back. Chaos and clarity. We got Joe Gerbo, my. My better half. We run plan B comedy together. Nothing would get done if it wasn't for Joe, so it's great to have him here. It's lovely to. To see you. I love you very much, dude. [00:00:15] Speaker B: I love you, man. Appreciate you having me. [00:00:18] Speaker A: Was this episode. This is 10. This is number 10. [00:00:21] Speaker B: So 10. Let's go. All right. [00:00:23] Speaker A: Yeah, man. [00:00:24] Speaker B: All right. [00:00:24] Speaker A: This is. It's been. It's been nice to have this back. Like, yo, when I started this, it was like, I only had my close friends. [00:00:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:32] Speaker A: And none of them wanted to ruin their lives. [00:00:34] Speaker B: This was back in la. [00:00:36] Speaker A: I started in la and then I had a hiatus and then started again in New York. And it's been a fucking. It was horrible. I had one guy who would come on, but he's like, I got to remain anonymous. I'm like, that's not fun. [00:00:47] Speaker B: What does this say? Like, what are you guys talking about? [00:00:50] Speaker A: I mean, the shit that we would talk about, but, like, he has a real job. [00:00:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Okay. You know. Yeah. That's got to be the tricky thing about having a podcast with, you know, actual people that give a fuck. [00:01:01] Speaker A: It's. It's. I mean, yo, it's. It's a. It's. If any of us quit doing what we're doing. [00:01:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:07] Speaker A: And decide to go, like, the traditional route, this will ruin your life for sure. [00:01:13] Speaker B: For sure. I think any time that you put your opinions out there in any sphere and you're not. I don't know, because comics, our whole thing is like, we want to be a little bit edgy. We want to have hot takes. [00:01:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:27] Speaker B: You know, if you're an accountant, you don't want to have your hot takes out there at all. [00:01:32] Speaker A: No, no. You're not gonna be a very good accountant. [00:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:34] Speaker A: No, no. [00:01:35] Speaker B: If you have a wife and kids, you don't want people to know how you feel about Gaza or. [00:01:39] Speaker A: Or, you know, your sexual conquest. [00:01:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Talking about. Yeah. Like, oh, I got pegged when I was, you know, 25, and it's like, sweetie, I found this on the Internet. What's going on? [00:01:49] Speaker B: Told me that. [00:01:50] Speaker A: That you like things in your ass. What's up? But, yeah, man, it's. You know, I was at. Today. This. We'll start here, I guess. I. I went to a funeral today. [00:02:02] Speaker B: Oh, that's hot. [00:02:03] Speaker A: Yeah, right? [00:02:04] Speaker B: I talk about it. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't know the guy. I just was looking to fuck a body. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Okay, Cool, cool, cool, cool. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:11] Speaker B: You know, you like him cold. [00:02:13] Speaker A: I love. I like. Yeah, cold. That's why all the women I've ever been with, just cold as. [00:02:17] Speaker B: I could see that for you. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Everyone, like, why is she so. Why. Why do you like being. [00:02:21] Speaker B: Well, knowing. Knowing this is, you know, knowing your mom and your sister. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:26] Speaker B: The. The couple of times that I've met them, I could see how you like. You like someone that doesn't want to. [00:02:32] Speaker A: Love you to smile. Yeah, it's. It's. I don't know. It's. It's. I guess it's that Freudian shit of, like, trying to. [00:02:39] Speaker B: Yeah. What is it? It's. [00:02:41] Speaker A: You fall in love with your mother, so you want to bang your mother. [00:02:43] Speaker B: It's either. It's either you. You fall in love with your mother or the complete exact opposite of your mother. [00:02:48] Speaker A: Yes, it's one or the other. I actually saw a great meme the other day that said, how hot do you think Freud's mom must have been? [00:02:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a fucking. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Like, that is brilliant. [00:02:57] Speaker B: For all of his. I. There was a joke, somebody, some comic mentioned that where he was like, imagine how hot Freud's mom must have been for him to say that to his friends. And all of them go, yeah, yeah. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, we all. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Your mom is hot. [00:03:16] Speaker A: It's a crazy. It's a weird thing, but we'll get back to Freud. But I was at the funeral, and they. It was for my dad's cousin. Like, she was old, so it was kind of like, whatever. But, you know, when you're in that situation, it's very, you know, you. You think. And. And the rabbi. It was a woman rabbi, which I thought was disgusting that they let a female do a man's job. [00:03:36] Speaker B: Yeah, but. Yeah, it's gross. Especially in. In a house of worship. [00:03:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:42] Speaker B: Kind of spite God like that. [00:03:44] Speaker A: If this was a mosque, they would have burned it to the ground. Yeah. [00:03:49] Speaker B: No, she wouldn't have walked out the door. No. [00:03:51] Speaker A: They would have killed her before, but. [00:03:54] Speaker B: This is why we can't have jobs. [00:03:56] Speaker A: This is exactly why. This is. This is life ruining. This is it. It's like we've made our decision. [00:04:00] Speaker B: By the way, do you. Do you mind if I drink coffee on. [00:04:02] Speaker A: I mind that. It's out of a Mason jar. That's what I mind. [00:04:05] Speaker B: All right, well, we can. We can get into the Mason jar thing after. [00:04:07] Speaker A: We'll get into that. [00:04:08] Speaker B: Because I want to hear about you and this. This, this dead body that you definitely think I. [00:04:15] Speaker A: It was. She said something that Was really interesting. And. And I want to see where. Where your head goes and, like, how you feel about it. [00:04:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:22] Speaker A: She goes. She was, like, talking about the person, and she's like, I talk. Her name was Phyllis. The person who died. I changed when I met you. Whether it was for good, I don't know. But you've changed me. And it wasn't like, in a derogatory. No, it sounds kind of derogatory, like, oh, whether it was good or not, it was just the whole point of, like, when someone comes into your life, you're changed. [00:04:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:49] Speaker A: What is that? What is it comes to your mind? Because. I don't know. I. Fucking hit me today. Like, people coming in and out and some people leave your life and they're not dead. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's. It's an effect. [00:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:00] Speaker B: So she had an effect, which is. I think, honestly, it doesn't matter if it was. It's. I'm sure that it was a positive effect. But whether you have a positive or a negative effect on somebody, the fact that you have an effect on somebody is powerful. [00:05:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:15] Speaker B: You know, and I think that we feel that way sometimes. We talk about it all the time when you're on stage, and it's just like, I would rather have people disgusted than indifferent. [00:05:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:28] Speaker B: You know, because at least you're having an effect. At least people are listening to what you have to say. [00:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Um. And so I. I'm sure that in this instance it was a positive effect, but the fact that she left it out, maybe it's. It's like, I know the effect that you had on me. You know the effect you had on me. These people, they don't need to understand what, you know, what I was thinking internally, but I think that's a pretty powerful statement. [00:05:55] Speaker A: It was pretty cool, man. Is there someone in your life, whether living or alive, where they had a strong effect? They're not in your life anymore. [00:06:03] Speaker B: Is there something in my life anymore? [00:06:05] Speaker A: Yeah, like, they're not in your life, whether they're alive or dead. You could, you know, do both. But, like, is there someone where you were like, yo, they. They just changed me. [00:06:18] Speaker B: That's deep, dude. Holy shit. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Right? This is. This is where I. This is the. There we get personal. [00:06:23] Speaker B: I like it. I like it. I think. Well, I mean, I can't think. I. I can think of, like. You know, I had a friend in high school who. He committed suicide. And that obviously has a huge, profound effect on you. That's super deep. [00:06:45] Speaker A: Were you guys close? [00:06:46] Speaker B: We were close. For a while. And then towards the end of his life, we kind of drifted away because he. Like, college does that, and, you know, we were. We were childhood friends and some. You know, you just drift away from people. But I think that him killing himself definitely altered the way that I think about things. And also just. It was like one of the first people my age that had passed away. [00:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:17] Speaker B: That. You know, you start thinking about your own mortality and how, you know, it's really tomorrow. You're not promised tomorrow. So I don't know. This is. [00:07:32] Speaker A: We got it, we got it, we got it. I know. [00:07:34] Speaker B: Hold on, hold on. Can I start over? We gotta cut this. [00:07:38] Speaker A: No, we're not. This is beautiful, man. [00:07:40] Speaker B: It's. [00:07:40] Speaker A: That's the thing. I know we're starting in a heavy place. It's. I guess it's just because I came from there and it was the first thing on my mind. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Okay. [00:07:46] Speaker A: But it's. It's a. It's a. So here's the thing. When he died, did you feel like. Was there, like, an anger? Because I never. I know people who have passed away, like, OD'd and stuff like that. I don't think I know anybody that, like, intentionally killed himself. [00:08:05] Speaker B: No, I wasn't angry. I know that there were probably people who were. Yeah, I wasn't angry. Maybe like a night or two. [00:08:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:15] Speaker B: Where you're trying to wrap your head around it and you go, you know, why the fuck would you do this? I felt more not guilty, but I don't want to say empathetic, because it's. It's really hard to. I think when people say that they're empathetic or they can sympathize. I think it's them trying to. To sound like they understand people more than they actually do. Yeah, I felt bad. I felt bad, you know, for somebody to be in that kind of place, just. I can't imagine it. You know, it's. [00:08:46] Speaker A: It's a weird thing. It's why I'm like, a huge guy on, like. On, like, I call all the time. Like, I. Phone call, phone call, phone call. Because you just don't know. [00:08:55] Speaker B: You said that to me once. You were like, I'm always. I'm the guy that thinks. Like, that could happen any day. That could happen to anyone. And maybe you're one phone call away. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like, why didn't I call it? Why? And I know. And we live in this generation where phone calls are considered weird. They're considered, like, intriguing. [00:09:13] Speaker B: They're too direct. [00:09:14] Speaker A: Which is crazy. [00:09:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:16] Speaker A: Because it's. I. I mean, why wouldn't you want to be direct? I hate when you text with somebody. And I. You. You in particular. When I text with you, I can't tell you. Can't get a gauge your inflection at all. I read this and I go, I guess he's pissed. And then I call you. You're like, no, no, I was just being an ass. [00:09:35] Speaker B: And I'm like, I am also not a morning person. I am after. I think after, like 4:00pm is when I'm ready to. To interact with people. [00:09:44] Speaker A: 4:00 clock, dude. Holy shit. [00:09:45] Speaker B: I. Dude, I'm nocturnal, I guess. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I've been working in bars for the last 10 years, so it's kind of conditioned me to. I have to be more social at night. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:56] Speaker B: And so I've gotten. And I've also been. I'm. I'm kind of a night owl. [00:10:01] Speaker A: You stay even? Even? Yeah. [00:10:03] Speaker B: When I was a kid, I like to stay up late, and that's when I. I don't know. That's when the creative juices are flowing. Yeah. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:10] Speaker B: So, yeah, in the morning, I'm just. I'm pissed off at the world. I'm like, I. I don't want to be here. And not. Not that. Not like that, but I'm. [00:10:19] Speaker A: I need. I don't want more of it. [00:10:21] Speaker B: I don't want to be outside right now. [00:10:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:23] Speaker B: You know, I don't want to talk to anybody. [00:10:26] Speaker A: That's. To me, that's insane. Like, the sun is. Even if I haven't slept at all, the sec. I'm morning. Morning all the time. Like nighttime. I want to be out because I know the world is alive. But I. I'm a morning person. Jesus, that honking. [00:10:40] Speaker B: You kind of have an Energizer Bunny aspect to you. [00:10:43] Speaker A: Oh. [00:10:44] Speaker B: Like when you're. When you're up and at it, you're ready to go. [00:10:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I can't stop. I'm like, let's. Let's keep rolling. [00:10:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:50] Speaker A: But, yeah, man, it's people. People have a. I don't think people are aware of. Like, I don't think anyone. Unless you're a total fucking narcissist. The, like, they don't go, oh, I have a great effect on people. Like, you got to be a douchebag to think that way. [00:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:11:06] Speaker A: But most people don't know. And some of my favorite people don't realize how much, like, people appreciate their presence. [00:11:14] Speaker B: And it's the coolest thing when you hear from somebody. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:18] Speaker B: That you do have an effect on people. [00:11:20] Speaker A: It's really nice. [00:11:21] Speaker B: You know, but you. And you can always see it. You. You can tell when somebody walks into the room. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:27] Speaker B: And the whole vibe shifts. [00:11:29] Speaker A: You know, it's the best dude. [00:11:31] Speaker B: And it's. When. Honestly, when. When we were here for the super bowl and your dad walks in, he kind of has, like a. He has a pull to him. [00:11:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:41] Speaker B: You know, and even though he. He was like. It seems like he likes to sit where. You know, he. He kind of. He. Wherever he's at is where he's at. You know, he's not gonna go up to you. He's not. He lets people come to him, but you can feel it. Yeah. You know, like, my dad is kind of the same way where when he walks into a room, you know he's there. [00:12:05] Speaker A: That's a. That's a powerful thing, dude. And. And if you don't. I never asked anyone, like, do you realize the effect that you have when you walk into a room? And is it learned or is it. You think it's like. You think it's. It's something that people figure out how to do, or you think it's like you just got it or you don't? [00:12:24] Speaker B: I think it's one of those things where when people say, whatever it is, he's got it. [00:12:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:31] Speaker B: I think it's like that you can know how to work a room. And I think there are people that are. That are better socially that kind of, like. Like to bump elbows with people. I can think of people off the top of my head that, you know, are in the scene that. I wouldn't say they have a natural, like, gravitational pull to them. [00:12:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:51] Speaker B: But they're unafraid to go and talk to anybody. But there are certain people, to name one. Like, not putting them on the spot, but when Kevin Sanchez walks into a room. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker B: I know he's there. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:04] Speaker B: You know, and everybody kind of knows. [00:13:06] Speaker A: He'S there, and everyone wants to hang around him. [00:13:08] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:09] Speaker A: Yes. That's a. [00:13:11] Speaker B: And this is me not giving you the satisfaction of saying that you have that effect on people. [00:13:17] Speaker A: Get over here and kiss me. [00:13:19] Speaker B: But you do. You do. When you walk in, people know that you're there. [00:13:23] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I appreciate that. Thank you. As first. But to me, I'm just like. You're just existing. Yeah. I don't. I don't know the difference, but that's. [00:13:33] Speaker B: Why you're almost oblivious to it. But everybody else is feeling it. And that's the way that you should be. You shouldn't go walk into a room and be like, I need to be the center of attention. [00:13:42] Speaker A: There's a lot of assholes like that. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Well, I mean, that's. We all pay $5 to be the center of attention for five minutes. Right. [00:13:49] Speaker A: Which is fucking insane. Yeah, it's. It's really. [00:13:52] Speaker B: Because we think that we're important, but I think that the kind of people that naturally gravitate towards that. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Have that. Have that thing. Have. Have it. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Yeah. And do you think. I mean, here's the thing. Maybe we don't think that we're that important. I feel like comics probably don't, but they're. They're so desperate to prove that they. That I. They're the validation. Because I've never seen a group of people more desperate. Actors actually are probably worse. Yeah. They're worse because they don't bring anything to the table. They're not funny at all. [00:14:26] Speaker B: But they are so convinced that people need to be watching them. Right. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is. Fuck, dude. It is so disturbing because at least even the biggest asshole comic, if he's funny, you can tolerate him. [00:14:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:38] Speaker A: With an actor, it's. It. You're acting, it's like, you're not being genuine. And there's so many guys, and as. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Soon as they open up their mouths, you're like, somebody should be writing for you. Because that's the only time that I can listen to you. [00:14:52] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. And your thoughts are not good. That's the problem with acting. That's what makes acting so. A lot easier than comedy, in the sense of these are not your thoughts. You can go up there and be like, all right, if this sucks, then we could blame this on the writer. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:10] Speaker A: That's why comedy is, like the. The toughest thing. Because I believe that this is something that's interesting and funny. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:17] Speaker A: And if you don't. If you're not on board with me, then. Then my. My. My thoughts and my brain are worthless, sort of in that way. [00:15:24] Speaker B: I know. It's. It's crazy. I. You feel so. You feel like you're being vulnerable. [00:15:29] Speaker A: You are. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And then. But then you see. But then you tell a pedophile joke, and people are like, that wasn't vulnerable. That was just gross. [00:15:38] Speaker A: But it takes vulnerability. [00:15:40] Speaker B: But that's what my. That's. Those were thoughts that I had. Yeah. And I'm choosing to share them with you. [00:15:46] Speaker A: You know, Corey put it to me best, dude. He looked at me. And he's like, he goes, whatever you're doing, he goes, I see what you're trying to do because I get it. He goes, and the difference between you and the fucking audience is that you know that this place is dark. You know how fucked up it is here. [00:16:01] Speaker B: Yeah. You're not afraid to admit it. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like you have to be delusional and you have to be fucking just. No, no, no, no, no. The world is fine. The world, it's not, it's really not. And the only way to get over that and address it is by going, hey, here's this. Let's try to make light of it. Otherwise you're just living in a fucking bubble of insanity. To, to, to go, no, no, we shouldn't speak. No, we have to. [00:16:27] Speaker B: The, the tricky thing is, is that when people come to a comedy show, are they coming to escape all that? And are, and that's. We talk about when people are on board with you. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Half of the people aren't going to be on board with you because they don't want to hear that shit. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Yeah. They, they, they wanted to keep it light. [00:16:49] Speaker B: Yeah. That's why I've been. I saw a tweet the other day from a comic that said clean comedy is going to come back in a big way. And it's because all you fucking people want to talk about on stage is gay retard and politics. [00:17:05] Speaker A: I love all. I don't love politics, but I love gay retards. [00:17:08] Speaker B: No, of course. But the point that he was making was it's the, the Nate Bargazzi effect, you know, or the Jerry Seinfeld where some people just want to go and have an easy laugh. [00:17:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:20] Speaker B: They don't want to have to think. [00:17:21] Speaker A: Too hard, which is understandable. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Which is cool. Yeah. And that's, it's, it's different genres, you know, it's what people, Certain people want to laugh at certain things. Certain people want to go there and there are people that are, that are going to come to shows that want to hear some really vile, fucked up shit. [00:17:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:41] Speaker B: Because they're thinking it too. But there are some people that go to shows and they just want to have a cheap laugh and they want to just chill, to think too hard, you know, it's. [00:17:51] Speaker A: I don't. But that's the other thing. It's like if you, your personality is pulled in a, in a place like mine or yours, where it goes like, this is what I want to hear. I like this dark shit. I maybe I want to say gay retard and really work at it. Not just go for the sake of saying something insane, but go, this is. I think this is a funny joke, but this is the way my mind works. I don't think that it'll ever be, like, canceled out. Not everyone likes to go to a Beyonce concert. Not everyone wants to go watch jazz. Not everyone wants to see Post Malone. It's, yes, there may be millions who watch that one, but there's 7 billion people in the world. There will always be people who want to see, like you said, that specific genre. [00:18:30] Speaker B: There's an audience for sure. [00:18:31] Speaker A: And if you're not being true to yourself, like, if you're going to go, I'm going to change my whole thing and go this way. One, you're going to have a harder time living with yourself. And two, it's, will you be as funny because you're not as authentic? [00:18:43] Speaker B: And, well, it's also like, I can't. I can't control the way that my mind works, you know? Yeah, that's just some of the things that the stuff that we really put down, you know, put pen to paper on, that's just. That's just what comes out. I can't. I can't really. I can't fuck around with it too. [00:19:02] Speaker A: Much, you know, it's interesting. Here's here. This is where my head went. I think you can control your mind in the sense of, like, giving yourself discipline, changing the way you do things, you know, really trying to be a better person. But I don't think you can control your mind and what you find funny. No, that's a very different. [00:19:22] Speaker B: Because it's a. It's a gut reaction. [00:19:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:24] Speaker B: Funny is just. It just comes out, you know? [00:19:27] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Like, the funniest shit isn't the stuff that you have to think about and go, oh, that's funny. [00:19:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. [00:19:34] Speaker B: It's just. You hear something, you go, holy shit. Yeah, it's a visceral reaction. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's the most. It is the one thing you cannot control, I think. [00:19:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:45] Speaker A: You know, you can stop yourself from doing something or saying something or whatever, but when someone does something, like being at a funeral and you happen to laugh, you. There's just something about you. It's. I. It's the. It's. I was talking about it. I did an episode a couple days ago on. It is religious when you find that person. Right. Like, you and me, we get each other. We laugh at the same. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:10] Speaker A: It's. It's like you and I are seeing the. The. The. The. We're pulling the veil back on this reality, and you. Oh, you saw that. And it's. [00:20:20] Speaker B: There's. [00:20:20] Speaker A: Is there any. I mean, obviously, laying in bed with someone's nice, but there's no better bonding. There really isn't. [00:20:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing better than you and me being the only ones that find something funny, dude. [00:20:36] Speaker A: Because it's like this little secret. It's like they don't get it. Oh, my God, I wish you could, but you can't. [00:20:41] Speaker B: Yeah. It's that. That's how we became friends. It was. We would do the 10pm Grizzly pair, and you would go up there and say some really dark shit, and people. [00:20:54] Speaker A: Would not be disgusted. [00:20:57] Speaker B: And I would come up to you and I would be like, you got to keep doing that. [00:21:00] Speaker A: I love it. [00:21:01] Speaker B: I love it. [00:21:02] Speaker A: You were one of the few people who said that. And I remember, and I'm like, okay. I haven't. [00:21:07] Speaker B: There's something there. [00:21:08] Speaker A: There's something here. If he. If someone who I don't know finds this funny, then I got. There's got to be others. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's because sometimes those, especially at open mics, like, the crowd is going to be all over the place. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:20] Speaker B: It's not going to be tailored to what you and I should be tailored towards. [00:21:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:28] Speaker B: You know, it's not where it's going to be a mixed bag of people, especially in midtown, where there's a bunch of tourists and there's. You know, there are nights where we have people from England and from Canada. Then there are times where it's like a room full of black women. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:43] Speaker B: Just like. All right, so do you guys want to hear about the new Pope and. [00:21:50] Speaker A: You know, or should we talk about cotton being. [00:21:56] Speaker B: I. I saw a video the other day of some white guy picking cotton, and he was like, I don't know what they were complaining about. [00:22:04] Speaker A: This is easy. I saw that. He's just. [00:22:09] Speaker B: And it's almost. And he's pulling it with such ease, and there's like a nice track in the background. Yeah. He's like, this is. This is. [00:22:15] Speaker A: This is fine. This is not a big deal. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And this is. You know, and this is why we wonder why it's been taking us so long to break through. Maybe it's because it's not us. Yeah. It can't be. [00:22:28] Speaker A: No. No way. You gotta blame them. Always blame them. But I think, you know, I. I'd Prefer taking this route. The, the harder route than, than going the easier route and getting somewhere and being like, ah, I'm not really me. [00:22:42] Speaker B: What is the easy route, do you think? Is it like popping off on the Internet or is it going like. Is LA easier than New York, Louisiana? [00:22:54] Speaker A: Not for me. Yeah, I, I guess it depends. I mean it's. None of it's really easy. I guess there are people that go. [00:23:01] Speaker B: To LA to pursue acting and then they become homeless. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Yeah, they do. I was just shy of that really. I was. When I first got to la, I was living on couches like for a month. I had nowhere to live and I, and I couldn't come home to Brooklyn because someone sublet my apartment and my parents didn't know anything that was going on. And I was, did it with a girl. She slept at her friend's place, I slept at my friend's place and I couldn't find a job. I had almost $0. [00:23:29] Speaker B: It was the most stressful character building. [00:23:33] Speaker A: Moment because I came from a, you know, a family of means that, that and it was all gone basically over time and I have no, no savings on nothing. It was the most character building moment of my life and it made me so much. I, I live with a lot more ease now. Where I go. That thing that I'm worried about, you made it a couple years ago. You didn't know where you were gonna eat. [00:23:54] Speaker B: You'll figure it out. [00:23:55] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:23:56] Speaker B: Yeah. But everything always works out. [00:23:58] Speaker A: That's. Dude, it's the straight, my buddy. It's like when you're like, shit, that bill is due, where am I gonna get that extra $500? And, and something happens, a shift opens up and it just, it works out weird. [00:24:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's weird how that happens. [00:24:12] Speaker A: You've, you've been there, like, yeah, we've, we've spoken about this stuff and it's so, it's, it's important to just be like, this is going to be fine as long as you're like not sitting on the couch, like just going, yeah, it'll come to me. Like, no, when you're starting to push and try to do it, it'll, it'll get there. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it's the, the law of applied pressure. [00:24:32] Speaker A: That's it, dude, it happens. But as far as easy going in la, it's, I think it's harder because I was trying to be myself and I was just not accepted. Believe it or not, when I was doing acting classes in la, the, the place where I was accepted was in the acting Class. I had a professor, Jackie diamond, and if you're ever looking for acting courses in la, you should hit her up. She's brilliant. And she accepted me for who I am. She saw me, she looked at me, she's like, I know you, I get you. And I was very accepted there, so I had a little community. But as far as comedy, I just, I think that if you're in LA doing it, you're like, I'm fine with getting a TV show, I'm fine with this, I'm fine with that. Whereas I think that if you're in New York and you and me, like, I don't. Sure. Would a television show be cool? I guess, yeah. I'd love to pay the bills that way. But I would just want to do stand up comedy like I really want to, and do like a funny movie. Like that would be fun. But you want to do comedy like we want to do stand up. [00:25:30] Speaker B: Yeah. That used to be the way that, that comics made money was they would start doing stand up and then they would get hired to write a sitcom. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:25:39] Speaker B: And then they would star in their own sitcom. [00:25:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:41] Speaker B: That was making it. [00:25:42] Speaker A: And. And then you watch the people, I think Rogan has spoken about it, where you see the people who went that route and then you. Those people who are writing the sitcoms see that, like people popping off that they were in the standup scene with as stand ups alone. And they. I think they're kind of like fucking. There was a lot more freedom there. [00:25:59] Speaker B: I should have stayed and stand up. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I think, I mean, yes, that person's paying the bills, but if you just wait a little longer. Yeah, but this shit is not easy. It's not fucking easy. It's really hard. But I think pandering to the audience. We can use the term easy. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Have you ever seen a. I see it sometimes in New York where, like somebody is writing for a TV show, like they started doing stand up, then they started writing for a TV show, and then they're kind of one foot in the door, one foot out. With comedy or with stand up. [00:26:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:34] Speaker B: And you can see that they're lacking the reps. Yep. And that the stage presence isn't there. To use an example, I would say that somebody like Pete Davidson. [00:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:43] Speaker B: Who he started off as strictly a stand up comedian and then he got into acting and then I remember he dropped a couple of specials and it was the special right after he had broken up with Ariana Grande and he was talking about the song where she's like, she's waddling because his dick is so big. And I remember watching that and thinking, like, he's not that good. And not to shit on Pete Davidson, but, like, I watched his stand up and I was like, it's not. It's not at the level that I would say, you know, he was a lot more famous because of SNL and because of movies than for his stand up. And I think that you have to. You have to make that choice, you know, that's why I kind of feel like Bill Burr's fallen off, because he started getting into. He started getting more into acting and more into Hollywood, and he's less about stand up. He's still one of the greats, but it's like you take that time away and you have. You're spending all your energy somewhere else. Yeah, it shows. [00:27:52] Speaker A: 100, dude. It's. It. Yo. I mean, I was never a huge Pete fan, a Pete Davidson fan. And Bill Burr now, I don't. I don't love his stuff, but it does. It atrophies. I also, I was talking with Corey about that where it's like, dude, you take a week off, you take. [00:28:08] Speaker B: That muscle's gone. [00:28:09] Speaker A: It's crazy. It's no different than the gym. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:13] Speaker A: You take a couple days off. A week off. Well, a couple days, fine. But a week off, you're done. You're not done, but you're just like, God damn it. [00:28:21] Speaker B: But it's worse than the gym because you have to do it in front of people. [00:28:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:25] Speaker B: And people have to. People have to sit through that and. [00:28:27] Speaker A: Endure it a hundred percent. One hundred percent. And it's, It's. I don't think people understand when, like, I got to go do a mic today. I got to go do a mic today. I got to go do a mic. They. They're like, what? Dude, you did one Yesterday. You did 13 hours. Like, no, no, you don't get it. [00:28:45] Speaker B: You don't. Yeah. Because they don't understand the. The nerves that go into just getting in front of people and that it never goes away. But you get more used to it the more you do it. And then if you take a week off, hitting that first mic after a week off, it feels like you're doing comedy for the first time. [00:29:08] Speaker A: It does, man. It really does. And, you know, it's. This is like, I always reference everything to sex because I'm a fucking. But you never have it. I never do. It's so sad. [00:29:21] Speaker B: I gotta fuck you jack off a lot. [00:29:24] Speaker A: No, really? No. I mean, it depends. I have it. [00:29:27] Speaker B: Did you used to. Yeah, yeah. Back in your heyday. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Yeah, when I was. [00:29:31] Speaker B: What, what's the most. How. What's the most you jacked off in a day? [00:29:36] Speaker A: That's a good question. So here's the thing. I'm not the kind of guy that'll jerk off and then wait a couple hours and jerk off and then wait. [00:29:42] Speaker B: Do just rapid fire. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Rapid fire. I'll. I'll spend two hours straight. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Oh my God. How, how. How do you even squeeze that out? [00:29:49] Speaker A: Nothing comes out. At some point you're just like, you're just sitting there, just. Yeah, nothing's coming out. But that my friends respect. Dude, that's twisted. It's. [00:29:58] Speaker B: Would watching porn for two hours is. [00:30:01] Speaker A: Ruins you. [00:30:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Ruins you. After that you, you're like rocking back and forth in a corner. You're like, oh no. [00:30:06] Speaker B: Holy. I feel disgusting after five minutes. Oh, imagine after two hours. [00:30:11] Speaker A: No, it's. It's. [00:30:12] Speaker B: I'm not a human being anymore. [00:30:14] Speaker A: It's. No, you're not. And, and I was really not. I was like, I felt like just a single celled amoeba. I was like, this is my whole. My brain's rotted, but that's what I used to do. But now because I'm so busy, it's. And, and, and sex is important to me. And, and you know, you know, coming is important, but I don't have. Yo. It's a. I get home and it's fucking midnight. I gotta be up at 6. I'm like, I don't have the energy to jerk off and I, I don't do it in five minutes. I just don't. I, I can't. [00:30:44] Speaker B: Oh, you take your time. [00:30:45] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. It's. [00:30:46] Speaker B: It's like you're having sex. [00:30:47] Speaker A: It's the same thing. It's just with myself where I'm like, I'm gonna make sure that you play. [00:30:50] Speaker B: With the screen a little bit. [00:30:51] Speaker A: Yeah, go right on the screen. It's. Yeah, dude, it's very. I can't. I don't, I don't do it that often. There'll be like a, you know, if I have free time and like, and it's like a light week, then I'll have, I'll go to town. [00:31:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Or you're at dinner with somebody and you know, it's a little boring. You're like, why don't I, why don't I treat myself real fast? [00:31:13] Speaker A: But comedy is as far as are doing like what I was going with sex. It's A. [00:31:22] Speaker B: You. [00:31:24] Speaker A: You're better when you're not nervous. And the less mics you do, like, the less you have sex, the more you're going to be nervous when it happens. The less mics you do, the more nervous you're going to be when it happens. Whereas when you're. I mean, you could attest to this, that when you go up and you don't really think about what you're about to do, you're just like, I got this. It's ease. There's. [00:31:45] Speaker B: There. [00:31:45] Speaker A: You could feel it. It's so good for everyone. The same way when you're about to have sex with someone and you're not in your head, it's fucking beautiful. [00:31:53] Speaker B: And it's also. The more you do it, you can let the bad ones go easier. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:59] Speaker B: If you're only doing. When I first started doing comedy, I was doing one mike a week. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:05] Speaker B: And I would do bad, and then I would have to think about it for six days. [00:32:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:10] Speaker B: And then I would go up again and I would do bad. And then I was just like, oh, so I suck. Whereas if you're doing, you know, three mics a night, five nights a week. [00:32:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:23] Speaker B: You have. If you have. Even if. Even if you have a bad day, you're like, I'll get it tomorrow. [00:32:28] Speaker A: Exactly. Exactly. You just go, this is. I know that I could do this. It's fine. [00:32:32] Speaker B: Because you had a good day the other day. You'll figure it out. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Exactly. And it's. It's, It's. It's always that way. Always. And you know, it's. It's. It's just. You need to keep doing it. Someone said to me the other day, they're like. They were talking about, like, oh, I want. I would. I'd love to try stand up. And I look at them genuinely and I just go. I go, you could. If you really. If you could write a decent joke. And you just. I said. I'm like, I wasn't. No one's good when they start. I'm like, just, you could do it. I'm like, you. But you have to be what you can't do, what most people can't do, is deal with being awful at something for a year or two years. [00:33:15] Speaker B: That's tough. [00:33:16] Speaker A: That's the. Yeah, but it's like anything else. You want to learn how to play the guitar, you're gonna fucking suck. [00:33:22] Speaker B: But again, you can play the guitar at home by yourself. [00:33:26] Speaker A: That's true. That is. [00:33:28] Speaker B: You don't have to expose yourself in front of People with comedy, you have to. You have to get a reaction out of people. Yeah. Out of people that don't know you. [00:33:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:38] Speaker B: And so you have to go up there and you have to bomb to find out what works and what doesn't. And it's just. It's painful. [00:33:47] Speaker A: It's painful, but you get past. Like, you and I had spoken about this in February. I think it was February 1st. I don't. I'll never forget the day when I got booed. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:59] Speaker A: Something happened in me. Something changed and flipped. And you said, it took a couple weeks for me to be like, I was all fucked up. I was angry on stage. I wasn't myself, but something changed in me. Where I go, the only thing worse than that is if someone tries to hit me on stage. And at that point, like, that's different. You know, that's not embarrassing. That's like, all right, we're gonna fight. I'll fucking kill you. [00:34:18] Speaker B: But. [00:34:21] Speaker A: That something like that happens, and you almost become slightly untouchable in a way where you go, if that's the. [00:34:28] Speaker B: Worst that can happen. [00:34:29] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like the worst thing happened to me already. Really. What do I have to worry about? And once you. If that happens, it just changes the game in the sense of, I can get up here and do whatever. Like last night when I. I made those, like, racial jokes off the cuff, I. I'm not thinking anymore about, I. Should I say this or shouldn't I? I'm just kind of going, this is where my head's going. I'm on a train. They're having a good time. Let's roll with it. Whereas I think if I never had the experience of getting totally destroyed and humiliated at 31 years old, I don't know if I'd be as easy to do it. You know what I mean? [00:35:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, if you're. Do you ever watch racing of any kind? [00:35:13] Speaker A: Not really, no. [00:35:14] Speaker B: Like F1D or F1 or anything. [00:35:16] Speaker A: No. But I know it's hot now. [00:35:17] Speaker B: I always think about, if I was a driver. You're always afraid of getting into a crash. Yeah. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Right. [00:35:25] Speaker B: And then it's probably got to be in a weird and fucked up way. Kind of a freeing feeling to get into a serious accident on the track. Yeah. And walk away from it. [00:35:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:37] Speaker B: And be like, oh, okay. The worst thing that could have happened did. And I lived and I lived. And the only thing worse than that is if I died and that didn't happen. So you almost feel. You do feel a little invincible. You do Feel a little untouchable. [00:35:54] Speaker A: It's a. It's cool as shit, dude. It's a. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Because you're not thinking about it now. [00:35:58] Speaker A: No. And it's also makes the excitement of actually getting in the car and knowing I may really crash and burn right now, it makes the excitement of. Of. Of that way more like, if you getting in the car, getting ready, like, I may die. It makes the excitement of saying that joke a little more of like, hey, if we're gonna. If there's any time to do it, like I'm racing, like we're in the car, now's the time to try that crazy turn. [00:36:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:24] Speaker A: And it makes that a little easier when you've already. [00:36:26] Speaker B: I'm gonna take some chances. [00:36:27] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:36:28] Speaker B: Because you know what's. It's. It's so funny when you see people that, you know are good or you know, are kind of used to. Used to having good sets. [00:36:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:39] Speaker B: And they start bombing a little bit and then they can't handle it. You just. Because I don't know about you, but I routinely go up on stage and start off so piss poor, I say something off the bat. Like when we did that show at the Rose and it was a bunch of women, and I got up there and I was like. I was like, I'm a little intimidated. I think you're hot. And it was just all crickets. And I was sitting there going, oh, that was the wrong thing to say. And I'm like, that was weird. And then ins. And I was just like, well, I'm here, so I might as well just talk about, you know, hey, do you think the pedophiles play fuck, marry, kill? [00:37:23] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the best segue for being. I'm intimidated by you women, pedophiles, anybody. [00:37:30] Speaker B: And then you just go right into it. You're like, I've been here before. [00:37:32] Speaker A: That's the thing, dude. You know, with that, in that instance. I've thought about that with that night and I think with women, because it was a heavy woman. I was. 90% of them were women. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:44] Speaker A: With that kind of crowd, women, Even if you like. If you treat it like approaching a woman in a bar and the first thing you say to her is, I'm intimidated a little right now. Like if. And even if you're trying to be funny, wherever it's coming from, a woman will just be. I think, especially when you're on stage. Men, I don't know for as much, but women, when they see you're in control, they're more they're more tuned in. [00:38:09] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like the. The shit test. [00:38:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:12] Speaker B: You know, is he gonna lose confidence? [00:38:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, if you go and say, you're intimidating me, which it was the right thing to do in that moment because you felt like it was the right thing to do. That's. That's. To me, I'm very. [00:38:22] Speaker B: In my. In my head, what I was. You know, I wanted to come out there and be like, oh, my God, such an attractive crowd. You know, I'm a little intimidated. [00:38:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Like, ahaha. [00:38:32] Speaker B: You know, it was more. It was more innocent. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [00:38:35] Speaker B: But the way it came out was like, you ladies are turning me on and I'm scared of you. [00:38:43] Speaker A: I haven't fucked in years. [00:38:46] Speaker B: And it was such a. It's just. But the other thing, too, is that I think women can pick up more on the subtleties of, like. Okay, that was kind of creepy. Yeah. You know, guys might be like, that was a little awkward. [00:38:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:58] Speaker B: You know, women will be like, that was a little. That was kind of gross. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:01] Speaker B: Don't say that again. [00:39:02] Speaker A: That's. That's the thing where. And once you lose that, sort of, like, you've seen it. I mean, you've been on stage where. Where you're doing. You go on there and you're like, what the is up? You're commanding the room, and you can see that there's a guy who's with his girlfriend, and she's smiling and she's like. You could see she's. She's just. She's tuned in. You've pulled her in more than the dude because, one, you're an attractive guy. Two, you just have the. That. And I hate this. This is gonna sound like some Andrew Tate shit, but that, like, alpha energy. And a woman will. You can pull a woman in before you've even even said a joke based on strictly how you're holding yourself. [00:39:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that guys, at least when I go to. When I used to go to shows before I did comedy, you're always thinking, like, oh, I could do that. [00:39:53] Speaker A: Always. [00:39:53] Speaker B: It's not so hard. [00:39:54] Speaker A: Yeah. You. [00:39:55] Speaker B: You know, and then. Yeah. If you're on a date with a girl and the comedian's making her laugh, you're like, he's not that funny. [00:40:01] Speaker A: Like, I could do that. [00:40:02] Speaker B: And it's like, I've made you laugh. Yeah. [00:40:04] Speaker A: Like, make you laugh harder than that. Yeah. It's. It's a. It's a very different experience. And I think men appreciate more. Women will appreciate the energy And a man will appreciate the thing that you're not supposed to say. [00:40:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:20] Speaker A: Like you can get the men a little bit afterwards because they're sitting there going, maybe I could do this. And then you say that wild shit that they've been thinking and can't say and they're afraid and then they. You do it and you're like, well. [00:40:31] Speaker B: And then it has the opposite effect because then the guy starts laughing, the girl looks over him. [00:40:35] Speaker A: Like you think that's funny. That's when you. The switch happens. Yes. [00:40:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:40:40] Speaker B: That's how you get them both, though. You get them both on your side. Yeah. [00:40:43] Speaker A: Which is great because you have one guy laughing, you have one who's a little upset. They're both listening and you're like, I got you both now. Even if, even if one of you hates me, I got you by the balls. Yeah. And it's a fucking. It's a really interesting thing because I've seen last night, I think when I did the, the. The racial shit, everyone was sort of. [00:41:05] Speaker B: So did you say the N word or not? [00:41:07] Speaker A: I didn't. I almost did. [00:41:09] Speaker B: How many times have you almost said it? [00:41:12] Speaker A: Way too many. Way too many. No, it's. It's the energy. It was just one of those moments yesterday with the energy was right. The, the. The. I, I was saying the right things. It was in the pocket. Like when you. The other night when we were at the pair, I sat there and it was just. You were playing the orchestra. You were playing the orchestra, dude. [00:41:37] Speaker B: I did not think that that was going to go over as well as it did because those are all. I think those are all like sort of my one off jokes or not one liners, but set up punchline. Just one after another after another after another. And I remember sitting in the audience, I was sitting next to Corey Cooley and we're watching everybody go up and you went up and you had the room with you. [00:42:04] Speaker A: It was okay. It was happening. [00:42:05] Speaker B: And there were. There were two girls in the front row that they were just laughing at everybody. Yeah. But. But I could tell that it was a good room. [00:42:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:12] Speaker B: And I could tell that they were all there to hear comedy. [00:42:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:15] Speaker B: Whereas, like sometimes you feel the room and it's just mostly comics and nobody's listening. [00:42:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:21] Speaker B: And so I could see. This is one of the, one of the things about being able to see the room before you go up. Yeah, you can go. Okay. I think this is, this is what I want to say here. [00:42:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:31] Speaker B: And when I went up there, I Did the ass eating joke and that went over better than I expected. [00:42:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:40] Speaker B: And from there it just gave me, you know, gives you the confidence to go, okay, if you guys like that. [00:42:46] Speaker A: Wait till you hear the pedophile joke here. [00:42:49] Speaker B: I got this new trans bit. You want to hear it? And then. And it all. And it was all going. And it was, it was also weird because I was. You know, it's a good feeling when you have to stop for laughs. Yes. Yes. Cuz then the timing, the timing comes so naturally. [00:43:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:06] Speaker B: And I was sitting up there waiting for. This sounds a little conceited, but I was waiting for laughter to stop. And I was just like, this is cool. [00:43:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm. [00:43:16] Speaker B: I looked over at you and I was in the middle of a joke and I see you over on the side of the, on the side of the stage and you're smiling at me and I was like, cuz you knew exactly where I was going from there. And I kind of shook my head. And then you go into the next one and it just, it keeps riding. And that's the, that takes conditioning. That takes a while to, to master. Like, we're not masters of it yet, but it takes you a while to. To be able to ride the fucking waves. [00:43:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And not jump the gun and blow your load too quick. [00:43:48] Speaker B: Right. [00:43:48] Speaker A: You know, having that easy. Like they're all laughing right now. I can wait for my next joke. I'm not going to rush into it. So the laughter doesn't die. Actually let the laughter die because I know the next one's going to hit, you know. [00:43:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Let the laughter die. And then that way you're not speaking over people. [00:44:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:02] Speaker B: You know, because. Allow them to have their moment. Because it's. And it's. You think about, you know, having your type five. Your type five could really be three and a half minutes of you speaking. [00:44:13] Speaker A: And then, you know, if it's popping off. [00:44:15] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:44:16] Speaker A: Hell yeah, dude. It's. It. That's. You said something before that was really interesting of like. And you and I both do it. But when you see the room and you're like, I want to try this, will you intentionally go into the room and go, I'm gonna try that joke. That'll probably. Because in my head I'll see people and I'll go, I'm gonna try the joke that I don't think will work here to see if it has legs. Because if it works with these people, like the Asian joke, the down syndrome thing. [00:44:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:45] Speaker A: That I go, I'm gonna, I Got a whole group of Asian people. This is. I want to see if this works with them. [00:44:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Yes and no. Yes and no. That's a good example. We were at a mic and the whole crowd was basically this one group. It was probably like 10 to 12 people, mostly Asian kids. [00:45:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:06] Speaker B: And they were all sitting in the front row. And you have a joke about, you know, is. Is. Does this person have down syndrome or are they Asian? Yeah. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:17] Speaker B: And that is the perfect room for you to go. If they're going to. If they laugh at this, then I know it's funny. Yes, I know. It's just. [00:45:27] Speaker A: It. [00:45:27] Speaker B: It's purely funny. It also takes a lot of balls to go up there and be like, okay, this is in this joke. This is who I'm talking about. I'm talking about you guys. Yeah. So you tell me whether you think this is funny or not. I now get into the. Have gotten into kind of the. The habit of. I've got. I've been to so many rooms multiple times where I know generally what's accepted and what's not, you know, with. With a certain group. And so I kind of. I'll shy away from certain topics if I know. Like, if I'm performing over on West 4th. [00:46:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:05] Speaker B: I won't do a lot of my favorite stuff. I'll do more of the, I guess more relatable, I guess, safer stuff. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:15] Speaker B: So I want to see if my clean stuff will work on comics. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:21] Speaker B: And when I'm. When I'm with the degenerates or if it's a late night, that's when I pull out the more. The rougher shit. [00:46:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:29] Speaker B: Because I'm like, these are the. These are the. When I. When I go to. When I go to the late night shows, I'm like, this is the crowd that I want to play to. Yeah. And so I want to give them my favorite jokes or the stuff that I think is really, really funny. And then when I'm doing like the earlier night stuff or the early afternoon mics, that's when I go, okay, here's the stuff that. It's a little bit safer. It's a little more silly. It should work. So tell me if there's anything to it. [00:46:58] Speaker A: I understand that. You know, and that's a smart way to work. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Like, I want to show off for my friends and be like, this is this new one that I'm really excited about. And then for the people that are maybe, I guess, just more. They're my peers, but they're not really? People that I'm comfortable enough with. [00:47:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:19] Speaker B: I'm just like, here. Here's the stuff that. You know, the more just stuff that I kind of find boring, but I know that should work. So it's. I don't know. I think what you do is a lot cooler because you're like, I have to say this in front of you. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:47:36] Speaker B: You know, you. You kind of. You kind of take the moment by the balls and you're like, no, this is. This is where I want. This is. This is what I've been writing for the last week. I need to say it. [00:47:46] Speaker A: It's. You know, it's. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's where that. I don't know. It's just how my brain is of, like, if it's. If this is a joke that is about a specific. Or as fucking gay people talk about. Not gay people. Like, gaylords. Like, douchebags. [00:48:02] Speaker B: Gaylords. Edge lords. [00:48:05] Speaker A: Edge lords. I'm like, I got it. Yo. Here's how you know I'm not a racist piece of shit where I'm like, yo, we're having fun. Like, if you. If I can make you laugh at yourself, and I'm not that demographic, then you have to understand we're just having fun with each other. And there's nothing for me, I don't love, like, laughing at my own shit. But when you're on stage and, like, they're laughing and you're like, you have this thing and then you laugh and there's. When you're having a good time, they're having a good time, and you could understand that, like, hey, I don't hate you. I don't fucking. I got nothing. It's just an observation that I had. Same way I'd have an observation about Jews. I just can't pick out Jews in the crowd unless I got a whole group of Hasidic people there, which will, majority of the time, will never happen. Yeah, but, like, I'm making fun of myself as much as you, so just don't. Don't get it twisted. I wish. The other thing is, I can't write. Not that I can't. My brain. I just go to the sickest places and it's so hard for me to write a clean joke. So there are times it's 3 o' clock or 4 o' clock, and I'm at a mic and I'm like, I don't. I don't have anything to do. Yeah, the dirty shit. [00:49:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And at four or five o'clock. People aren't ready to hear. [00:49:20] Speaker A: They're not stuff. They're not. It's fucking. Yeah. Once the sun goes down a little, then we're like, okay, yeah, we've had a drink in us. Say it. You know, but dude, it's, it's just you. [00:49:32] Speaker B: You can feel the vibe in the room. [00:49:34] Speaker A: Always, Always. [00:49:36] Speaker B: There's. I think, I think the best thing to do is to be. This is what I've been working on. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:46] Speaker B: This is what I wanted to talk about. And not go, oh, well, I don't think this is gonna work in this room. So I shouldn't say it. I think, I think it's better. And it's, it's a lot braver to go into a room and be like, you're gonna hear it whether you like it or not. [00:50:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:02] Speaker B: But the thing is, is that. That is risky. [00:50:05] Speaker A: It's risky. And so. [00:50:07] Speaker B: And, and I'm more about like calculated. [00:50:09] Speaker A: Risk, which is which you're, you're, you are legitimately, you're a lot more logical than I am. You're definitely smarter than I am. And you have a. There's a maneuver here and I'm like, it's like you're going in the ring and your defense is really good. I'm going in the ring getting punched. Like, I'll knock him out, but I have to get punched in the face 17 times, which is not a smart way to fight. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah. He'll get tired. [00:50:33] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like at some point I'll, you know, I'll just. [00:50:35] Speaker B: He's going to slip up and then I'm going to catch him. [00:50:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is dumb. That's not how you fight. [00:50:40] Speaker B: Well, I mean, if you, if you got a tough chin, if you can take it, that's the thing too. If, like, if you have the balls to go up there and you go, this could go very badly. [00:50:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:51] Speaker B: But I'm going to say it anyways. And then you have. And you already have. You spoke about it earlier. You know, you've had the worst thing happen to you on stage. [00:51:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:00] Speaker B: You know, that was, that was as bad as it can get. And so since you have that in your back pocket, you've lived through that experience. You probably have more. You, you have the balls to go up on stage and be like, if that happens again, doesn't matter. [00:51:15] Speaker A: Good. Yeah. Like, let's. [00:51:16] Speaker B: Cuz I'll still be here next week. [00:51:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:18] Speaker B: Doesn't matter. [00:51:19] Speaker A: It's. Yeah, man, it's. It's one of those things. I think that that's. That's been the thing that's sort of been youn know, pushing me to make me go, all right, like, let's just. I'm here, you know, and it's. You know, there are people, like, I see, like, Joe DeVito, who's a sicko. He's a sicko. [00:51:37] Speaker B: Like, yeah, he is. [00:51:38] Speaker A: And he is. [00:51:39] Speaker B: He doesn't. He doesn't seem like it. He seems. He seems like he's like the kid from Up. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Yeah, a little bit. [00:51:46] Speaker B: You know, he's got, like. He's got such a. He's a sweet little. You know, there's like this little bubble around him. [00:51:53] Speaker A: But when I see what he laughs at and when he and I have banter, I go, you and I speak the same language. Okay, I got this. And. And I see he gets a slightly nervous, like, with, like, I don't know if I should do this. And he's still way newer, and he's. We've been at it way longer than he has. But I go, I kind of want him to get booed. I kind of want him to get booed. Not because I, I. I love you, Joe. He's probably not going to listen to this anyway, but because I go, oh. [00:52:20] Speaker B: Once you be good for him. [00:52:21] Speaker A: Oh, because then he'll be like, you. There's an. I am a. Here's the thing. You know, people talk about comedy. Who. They're like, oh, who. Who do you love the most? Who do you look up to? And this is gonna sound. This is the whitest I have ever said in my life. When I think of comedy, I have my greats, but when I think of the comparison of what I'm trying to do besides just be funny. It's Eminem. Like, I'm a big Eminem fan, and what he did. [00:52:50] Speaker B: I am whatever you say I am. [00:52:52] Speaker A: There's that whole thing of. First of all the time, it was because you weren't allowed to. He was saying that he was going to rape his mom and kill his, you know, rob a bank and kill this one. And he's got that song. He's like. If you think, like, people ask me, like, do I actually do the things I do on record? If you think that, like, I'll kill you. And then he does that song Criminal. [00:53:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:13] Speaker A: And he created an alter ego of, like, Slim Shady making it like, this is the person doing it. It's not really me. And he has these moments of heartfelt, like, you know, I'm. I'm dying inside. Also, this is tough. And it's like, who he was also. Like, who would have thought that, like, this crazy would hit? And that's how I, I. I look at that. And that's sort of the. Not the model. I don't want to say I'm trying to be like Eminem, because that's insane. [00:53:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:35] Speaker A: But the model of, like, people, like, he was talking about rape and murder and. And all this crazy. That. And it was funny. That was the thing people want. Holy shit, dude. [00:53:46] Speaker B: And they love crazy white boy. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Yeah. And I go, that makes sense to me. I'm like, that's kind of the thing I'm trying to do, if that makes any sense. [00:53:55] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like, he's your spirit animal. [00:53:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I'm like, I'm saying this insane shit, and if you think that this is actually true, you're a fucking idiot. You don't get it. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Right? [00:54:04] Speaker A: You know? [00:54:05] Speaker B: Right? [00:54:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know why I was where I was going with that. [00:54:09] Speaker B: Well, he's. Okay, so you're talking about. He's one of your models. Is there. Is there a particular standup that you look to and you're like, he is. Whatever he does, it doesn't have to be the material, but you're like, just the way that he commands himself on stage. I want to be like that. [00:54:25] Speaker A: As a kid, it was Chris Rock. I would watch Chris Rock and go. [00:54:30] Speaker B: Ladies, you want to be black? [00:54:31] Speaker A: I want to be black so bad. [00:54:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Your. Your two favorite guys. Eminem, a white guy that wanted to be black. And that's Chris Rock, an actual black guy. [00:54:40] Speaker A: It's a. First of all, I think black people are just inherently funnier than white people. [00:54:44] Speaker B: You don't have to think that they are. [00:54:46] Speaker A: It's the truth. They're just fucking hysterical. [00:54:48] Speaker B: Yeah. And because they don't give a fuck. [00:54:51] Speaker A: They don't. They go and they just do it. You look at, like, Patrice, you look at Chappelle, but Rock. I was watching Never Scared, which is, I think my favorite special. Bring the Pain was amazing. But Never Scared, where he was just like. He goes like, ladies, when your man does this, this, and that, you know, a lady will go, this, you know, and then he'll go, fellas like it. There's this. This sense of camaraderie, of, like, I. I don't know how to explain it, but I. I watched it as a kid, and I loved it. So it was Rock then, but now, I mean, still him. Brian Holtzman, which people don't really know. He is He's a, you know, a Long island guy who lived in LA and he's from the 90s and he was there to clear out the room at 2am and he's a maniac. I love it. And it was. It's so absurd. You watch Brian Holtzman say the things he says. Like he, I think he said at Madison Square Garden once of like, I wish. I wish someone would fucking rape her already. Like, so he was talking about some woman and it's insane, but it's a joke. Like you don't get it. It's so absurd. You don't get it. [00:55:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he is. He's just figuring it out when he gets on stage. It's like he doesn't go up there with anything planned. No, he's just going up there and he really lets it fly. [00:56:04] Speaker A: Yeah. And he uses that fucking insanity, which is in comedy. I mean, in any creative endeavor, if you, if you channel insanity correctly, then you can shine. [00:56:16] Speaker B: Mm. Yeah. Because the line between insane and genius is. [00:56:20] Speaker A: It's right there, you know? [00:56:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:23] Speaker A: But what about you? Who do you. Who do you look at? [00:56:25] Speaker B: And you're like, let's see. I mean we both. I talk about it ad nauseam, but I think that Anthony Jeselnik is the greatest joke writer that's ever lived. I think that he's just like. He took sort of the. Joe Steven Wright is. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Yes. The old, the old comic. [00:56:51] Speaker B: Yeah. He was in 80s or 90s comic and he would talk about. He had a joke where he's like, I have a. Bought a humidifier and a dehumidifier and I'm just letting him duke it out in my bedroom, which is. It's just like this. So he has. And Mitch Hepburn. Mitch Hepburn, who is insanely just one of the greatest joke writers. Just the economy of words taking. He could make a five word sentence a joke. [00:57:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:20] Speaker B: And it's brilliant. [00:57:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. His funny. [00:57:22] Speaker B: But Anthony Jeselnik took the. That took the setup punchline and made it as dark as possible. [00:57:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:30] Speaker B: And he made. He kind of like cornered the left turns of. You know, I'm going to take you down this route, then I'm going to hit you over the head with a rape joke. [00:57:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:37] Speaker B: And so to me, he is the best. [00:57:42] Speaker A: He. [00:57:42] Speaker B: He's the best at telling jokes. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:45] Speaker B: And then I think Patrice is up there with. Patrice has sort of a, like a. Like, like how Kevin Sanchez will go up there and he has kind of a. A broad topic. [00:58:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:03] Speaker B: And then he really picks it apart and tells You. Why? It's so ridiculous. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:10] Speaker B: So I don't know. I. I really tried. I really tried when I got into comedy to be Anthony Jeselnik. [00:58:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:17] Speaker B: And then I found that, A, I'm not smart enough to be that you, and B, he's already so good at it. I can't. I can't be any better than him. So now I kind of look at. I look at Corey Cooley. [00:58:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:31] Speaker B: And I'm like, I love what he does. He. I've told him this many times, but, like, there are times when I'm writing at home and I hear his voice in my head and I don't know if I'm biting his style, but I can tell that he's. He's having. He's having an effect on me. Being around. Being around him has made me, I think, a better writer. [00:58:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:54] Speaker B: And it's made me approach it a little bit differently because he. And he said something to me where he was like, it. It takes a. It's a skill to go up on stage and say the worst thing that you can think it is and to. To say that in front of people over and over and over again. [00:59:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:12] Speaker B: And I was like, yeah, that's true. Because sometimes I say something and I'm like, oh, man, that was gross. I'm sorry you guys had to hear that, you know, And. But instead of apologizing about it, you're like, no, this is what I want to do. And that's where the. That's the skill of it comes in, where you're like, I'm going to make this. I'm going to make this somewhat palatable. Yeah. [00:59:34] Speaker A: You know, and it takes. It takes a lot of. A lot of time to do that. But it's a. Once you have it down and once you're able to do it and just go, you're fucking. You're really golden. Like, you're really, really golden. [00:59:49] Speaker B: But Brian Holtzman has that in the back. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Oh, dude. Yeah. And I know women. There's some women, like the cool women I know, which I don't usually hang out with, uncool women because they're just. They. They don't matter. They. They. [01:00:05] Speaker B: Sounds like you don't hang out with women. [01:00:07] Speaker A: None of them are cool. No, there are a couple women that I. One in particular. One in particular where I will run jokes by her, not be one, because I'm not really getting a female opinion because she's not like other females. [01:00:21] Speaker B: She a comic? [01:00:22] Speaker A: No. [01:00:22] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:00:23] Speaker A: No girl that I've had Romantic things with. [01:00:27] Speaker B: Is this your sister? [01:00:29] Speaker A: Yes, it's my sister. [01:00:31] Speaker B: Because she's got a good sense of humor. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. We've had romantic past together. My sister. I can't even say that, that that's where my line is. [01:00:37] Speaker B: No, I could tell. I could tell. Yeah. [01:00:41] Speaker A: But I, I've. [01:00:41] Speaker B: Nice to know that you have a line. [01:00:44] Speaker A: It's really faded, dude. And I'll run shit and, and it's the darkest, most disgusting shit. And she'll laugh and maybe it's. She's biased in a way, but she said to me once, she goes, I want to hear the shit that you're not supposed to hear. And I go, there must be other women like that. There's got to be. Because a lot of the times the women are controlling the Internet in a way of like what you post on the Internet. If a couple of cool girl, like girls are the ones who are going to share it, like, the guys will too. But I think women are the ones who control the ticket sales and the Internet in a way. Like, if you can get women to like you, you'll. You'll be able to get further quicker. Whereas if it's just men, because like, yo, if you're in a relationship, realistically, if you like a comic, really, who's a sicko that you're girlfriend doesn't like, you're probably going to go see the comic that she wants to see. Maybe not comic. Musician. [01:01:38] Speaker B: Yeah. You don't want to feel like you're dragging her somewhere. [01:01:41] Speaker A: Exactly. You are. The boyfriend always needs to be. Not needs to be. Or willing to get dragged. Like, all right, you want to go see this final? [01:01:47] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I think fame is being accessible to women. Because if you look at the Beatles back in the day and you look at some of the crowds that are playing on the Dick Van Dyke show or whatever, and it was just all these women going crazy. And guys see that and they're like, oh, if women like this shit, I better be. I better be on. [01:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I better. I better know. [01:02:07] Speaker B: You know, who is Chris d' Elia before all that shit. [01:02:12] Speaker A: Yeah. The rape allegation. [01:02:13] Speaker B: He was. Women loved him. [01:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:16] Speaker B: Women flocked to his shows and he was huge. Matt Rife has that where, you know, like most of his audience are single women. [01:02:26] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:02:26] Speaker B: And it's. That's, it's cool. It's there, there's just something. Because every guy, every guy wants to be the guy that all the women want. [01:02:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:38] Speaker B: And all the men want to be. [01:02:40] Speaker A: Exactly. And that's Right. [01:02:41] Speaker B: And so if you. If you do have a female audience or if you can relate to women, they dig your shit. It's. I don't know. [01:02:51] Speaker A: It'll. I think it'll catapult you. They're more. Women are more on the Internet, sending things to their friends. Women aren't post. Men, I think, are posting more. I think women are sending behind the scenes more. [01:03:02] Speaker B: They kind of dictate what's acceptable. [01:03:04] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:03:05] Speaker B: Socially acceptable. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's why I'm like, okay. You know, I. I think that. I genuinely think that women are. Are the ones that kind of control young women. Control that sort of maneuver. And I've. The funny thing is, is that I love women. I really do. [01:03:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:25] Speaker A: My act, you maybe wouldn't recognize it, but I. I know if I got off stage and hung out with a bunch of women, they'd be like, wow, okay, you're. You're really cool. I want to relate to women more, but I want to relate to them on a gross level of like, hey, like, just get out of that little. Like, get out of your shell for a second and just, you know, like, that's why I've been doing that whole bit. Like, the whole thing was, how can I relate to women more? And I did that whole fairy smut, and I can see the women are more engaged than any other joke I've ever told. [01:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's because you're speaking about them. [01:04:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, That's. And that's why I love Patrice, dude. Patrice had a way of. On women, but also making it, like, acceptable. You know what I mean? [01:04:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. He had that whole bit where he was talking about. He's like, I cheat on women because I love them, because I want to be with them. And, you know, I love my girl, and she, like, me cheat. He's. I don't know. I think that. To the effect of. He was like, I'm happy because I'm cheating on her, and she deserves to have somebody that's happy with her or something. It was something like, it keeps it. [01:04:42] Speaker A: It makes me realize, like, how much I love her or something. Or like. [01:04:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And then. And he was talking about, know. He's like, women are like, fish. And, you know, I'm a fisherman, so you got to catch the fish, but if the fish sees that she's the only fish that I can catch, she's gonna think I'm a loser. Yep. So I gotta be able to. To catch all these fish and let. [01:05:03] Speaker A: You know that, hey, look, you're lucky to have me. Right. Yeah. [01:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:06] Speaker A: I fucking love that. [01:05:07] Speaker B: So he's. Yeah, in a way, he's talking about how. Yeah, he's. He's not really making fun of women, but he's having fun at their expense. Yeah, but he's making it sort of. He's, like, inviting them to the party. [01:05:23] Speaker A: Yes. You know, and that. [01:05:25] Speaker B: He's not saying, you wouldn't get it. [01:05:27] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's the thing. And that's why. And that, to me, I appreciate. Because so many dudes love comedy already, and if you can get some women on your side, it's nice. It's just cool. I. I love, as you can tell, everything I compare to a relationship. I love the way that relationships work. I think it's. It's so interesting and so relatable, but I like a little darkness to it. [01:05:55] Speaker B: So you grew up. You have one sister, right? [01:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:59] Speaker B: And were you close to. You were closer to your mom than your dad growing up? [01:06:05] Speaker A: No. Growing up, I think I was closer to my dad. As I got older, I appreciated my mom a lot more. [01:06:09] Speaker B: Okay. [01:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I think about that all the time. I have an older sister. [01:06:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:14] Speaker B: And I think this sounds pretty gay, but I am more comfortable around women than I am around a bunch of guys. Like, when I'm. When I go to a bachelor party, I am so. Dude, I can't hang out with 15 guys. Like, I was never in a frat. [01:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:36] Speaker B: And it's exhausting to me to. Because there's. There's too much competition. [01:06:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:41] Speaker B: There's too much testosterone. And I'm not talking about, like, toxic masculinity or anything like that, because I think that's bullshit. [01:06:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:48] Speaker B: I'm talking about. I just can't. Like, I can only hang out with men for a certain amount of time, you know? Dude, I like. Like, I like hanging out at home with my girlfriend and not saying a goddamn word. I'm just comfortable, you know? [01:07:05] Speaker A: I'm comfortable when she's cooking for me and she's quiet. Dude. [01:07:09] Speaker B: Patrice said it. He was like, men, we. We don't. You know, we don't want to be lonely. We want to have somebody around, but we don't want to. It's like, I don't want to have to pay attention to you. I just want. I just want you to be around. Yeah. [01:07:26] Speaker A: Just, you know, exist. [01:07:27] Speaker B: I don't. Yeah. I don't want. I don't. Like. I don't want to be alone. I want to be left alone, but I want to be alone. [01:07:33] Speaker A: I'm that way. I'm 100% that way. Yeah, but, dude, hanging around guys, I mean, I'm not a sports dude. Like, yeah, I'm watching the Knicks because they're in the playoffs. I do know who the people are. I don't watch football. If the Super Bowl's on, I watch super bowl hockey. That's what I follow. However, I can't sit around, like, I listen to you guys. You talk with some of the comics about Fanduel and, and, oh, the game. And I'm going, I am so bored right now, dude. [01:08:00] Speaker B: That's just speaking their language, I guess. [01:08:03] Speaker A: But I can't. I mean, you see me, there are times where I'll run away and, like, and just sit in the corner and smoke cigarettes because I'm like, I just, I can't do this right now. I'd rather sit with women. I don't want to hear them gossip, like, about, like, I don't want to hear gossip about famous people. I don't give a about that. But I love talking to a woman who's dealing with a boyfriend or a situationship. And I go, okay, sweetie, talk to me. I'm like, I'll give you a male's opinion right now. I'll tell you exactly what's going on that I fucking. I have so much fun with that. And it's. [01:08:31] Speaker B: Do you think you want to fuck these women? [01:08:33] Speaker A: I want to fuck all of them. [01:08:35] Speaker B: You're a scumbag. [01:08:36] Speaker A: I'm a dirt bag. [01:08:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:37] Speaker A: What do you think I'm doing there? [01:08:38] Speaker B: I don't, I don't actually want, as somebody who's currently in a relationship, that's like, the number one fear is that there's some guy being like, yeah, he's such, he's such an asshole. [01:08:47] Speaker A: No, no, no. Here's the thing, here's the thing. I would never shit on a guy. If you're in a committed relationship, that's different. [01:08:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:53] Speaker A: Like, I'm not going to sit there and be like, you should leave him. I'll go, yo, maybe you should, like, understand his perspective, you know? Like, I, I, if, if you've been together for a while, that's none of my. I want, I don't want any part of you or that. But if you're a single girl and you're like, yeah, I want, like, even on a date, I'm like, yeah, so, like, what was the shittiest date you've been on lately? [01:09:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's cool. [01:09:09] Speaker A: You know? And then I'll be Like, oh, that guy sound actually. And there have been times where, like, he sounds fine. [01:09:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:14] Speaker A: And I'll be like, maybe you should go on a date. Another date with that guy? [01:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:19] Speaker A: But I love hanging out with women. It's, it's fun. [01:09:23] Speaker B: Yeah. It's. I don't know, it's. I don't know if it's easier, but it's just, you know, we're compatible. And I, Like I said, I grew up with, I grew up with an older sister. [01:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:35] Speaker B: So I kind of like, I know guys that have brothers and, you know, they just, they love duding it up. [01:09:44] Speaker A: You know, That's a. I'm out of my friend group. Of the people I grew up with, I am the only one with a sister, and she's older. I think people with especially older sisters, they have a level of sensitivity as a man that other men do not if they don't have a sister. I was always more sensitive than my friends. I was always more. I treated women better. I, I, I just get it a little more. And I think that you are cut from the same cloth. [01:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. It's more. Definitely more sensitive. Yeah, definitely. [01:10:17] Speaker A: Do you cry when you come also? [01:10:19] Speaker B: No, it's just me. [01:10:21] Speaker A: Okay. [01:10:22] Speaker B: No, I mean, I haven't come in a while, so. Oh, so you're man and you're dude. Yeah, I save my tears in my come. [01:10:32] Speaker A: Oh, that's nice. [01:10:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:33] Speaker A: Both salty. [01:10:33] Speaker B: Yes, but no, I think. I don't know. It's blinking. [01:10:41] Speaker A: No, it's a sensitivity of being a little more sensitive than when you're in a. [01:10:45] Speaker B: You're So I handle my, my, I handle my emotions like a woman. [01:10:48] Speaker A: Oh, what do you do? You throw plates? [01:10:50] Speaker B: No, so, like, if you, if you say something mean to me. [01:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:55] Speaker B: Or I don't like something you said, you shut down. Yeah. I won't talk to you. I used to give you the cold shoulder. [01:11:01] Speaker A: I used to do that. [01:11:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:02] Speaker A: And then I got tired of it. I'm like, I can't, I can't say. [01:11:04] Speaker B: Like, Like, I think, I think the guys, the way they process their emotions, it's like, I don't know, it feels like you got it. You got to get that shit out. Where, like me, I just let it boil. [01:11:17] Speaker A: Oh, no, that's the worst, dude. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:19] Speaker A: So worse. You can't do that. I, I used to do that, and he drove me fucking nuts. And now when I'm with someone who can't have a conversation. Well, you need time. You do need time to simmer. Like, if you Have a big fight. Having the conversation right then. And there is never a good idea. You got to go. I'm gonna go for a fucking three hour. [01:11:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll step away first. [01:11:36] Speaker A: Yeah, let's get the fuck out of here. But it's both clear ahead and then we can have a normal conversation. But if you let it sit and you're like, no, no, I'm fine. That's not good. [01:11:44] Speaker B: But then I also hate talking about my feelings. So it's like the. It's like the. [01:11:48] Speaker A: Yeah, you're a fucking duality. That you are the most interesting dude. [01:11:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz I'll. Cuz I'll get really, really upset and I'll be like, that really upset me. But I'll never voice it because I'm. [01:12:00] Speaker A: Like, I can't talk. [01:12:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Like that's so fucking gay that I would. That I would want to explain myself to people. [01:12:07] Speaker A: No, I have no problem. [01:12:09] Speaker B: That's the other thing. I hate explaining myself. I hate it. I hate explaining my thought process to people. I hate. Unless it's something where. Unless it's like, like I don't like talking about my opinions openly with people. I really don't. [01:12:26] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:27] Speaker B: But I like talking about my thought process with jokes. You know, I like. I like that. Or I like talking about. I love explaining to people why I like certain teams. Like why I like why I grew up a Washington Redskins fan and why I'm a San Francisco Giants fan. And I'm like, because it's my dad. And I like. I like to talk about, you know, my relationship with my dad and, you know, growing up. But I don't like to talk about like current events and explaining. Explaining why I feel certain ways. [01:13:00] Speaker A: No, that to me, I think is also ridiculous because it's like, what are we doing here? We're just gonna end up in a fight if we have an opposing opinion. [01:13:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:06] Speaker A: And we could agree on everything else. This. This may ruin. [01:13:08] Speaker B: It's like, it doesn't matter. [01:13:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:09] Speaker B: You know, I agree. [01:13:10] Speaker A: And the other thing is, if someone has an opposing opinion, a lot of the times you think to yourself, this guy must be a idiot if he thinks that way. [01:13:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:17] Speaker A: So you're kind of better off just not talking about it. But you have a. Watching you process emotions and I'm crazy. I know I have something terribly wrong with me, but I am very. I can, I can speak my emotions and I have a very easy time with being emotional. And that's from my dad, believe it or not. But you. It's almost like, there's an error where you're like, no, no, no, I can't do this. And I know you feel a lot, and to me, I'm always kind of trying to, like, Jenga you. You know, like, I'm pulling. Pull that little brick out. You're gonna. You're gonna open up. [01:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. It just. It feels so exposing. It. [01:13:59] Speaker A: Like getting on fucking stage is exposing. And, you know. [01:14:03] Speaker B: I know. But when I. Like, so if I have a bad set. Yeah. I will sit down in a seat and, you know, if somebody tries to talk to me, I'll phone it in, but in my head, I'm like, you fucking suck. How could you fucking. You thought that. You thought that was gonna work? And I'm sitting there, and I'm just needling myself, being like. And that's. And all I want to talk about is, like, how bad I feel, but I don't want to be a bummer. [01:14:28] Speaker A: No, you can't do that. [01:14:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So I just. So I just sit there and I swallow it, and I'm like, yeah, yeah. No. [01:14:34] Speaker A: Well, yeah. Talking about it on stage. That's not a good idea. [01:14:37] Speaker B: That's terrible. No, not on stage. But even off stage. [01:14:39] Speaker A: Oh, no, that's. [01:14:40] Speaker B: Even off stage, I have a hard. [01:14:42] Speaker A: Time talk it up. [01:14:43] Speaker B: I just have a hard time opening up. [01:14:45] Speaker A: That's why we're here, dude. This is a cam. Was. There were moments where cam was like, wow, you have me in a deep thought. And it's like, I've been trying to figure out what the fuck this podcast is forever. It's always been just a fun place to let loose, but to get like, yo. I like. I love getting deep. I fucking love it. And there's. And. And this is the place I can do it. You can't do this shit with people. Like, no one's wants to get deep anymore. No. And women don't. Very few. And it's like, I love it, dude. I. [01:15:16] Speaker B: You really are a woman. [01:15:17] Speaker A: I am. I am. [01:15:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:19] Speaker A: I love seeing people go. [01:15:21] Speaker B: You're like, tell me your deepest, darkest secret. [01:15:23] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, I love it. How do you know that's the interesting stuff. [01:15:27] Speaker B: That's because people. I think, inherently, they feel suspicious of somebody that wants to hear that because it's like. But. But you're. When you invite somebody to tell them. [01:15:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:41] Speaker B: Or to tell you their deepest, darkest secrets, you're like, I'm gonna tell you mine right off the bat. [01:15:45] Speaker A: That's the thing. [01:15:46] Speaker B: You're like, don't worry. Don't feel uncomfortable because I'm gonna tell you. And you almost. You say that first to invite people in. [01:15:53] Speaker A: Where I go, you're okay. I promise you. I want nothing from you except for us to go. I got. I see you. And it's. It's because I think in my case, I've been trying to be understood my entire life. I've. I've kind of given up on the fact that, like, no one's. Not everyone's going to get me. But I've always been trying, even by my parents, to just be understood. [01:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:14] Speaker A: And I. I know that there's other people that feel that way, and I know how lonely it feels. And I go, I promise you, like, I'm. I just. If you give me a little nugget, I promise you'll feel seen. I would never judge you. Like, we have a friend, not going to say his name, who. Who had told me that he tried to kill himself and he failed. And I was like, loser. [01:16:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Wow. You can't even do that right. Yeah. Wow. [01:16:42] Speaker A: You're. Why am I talking to you? But he told me that. [01:16:46] Speaker B: Was this recently. [01:16:48] Speaker A: It was a little while ago. Maybe it was a little less than a year ago. And he told me that, and that was now. It's always in the back of my head of, like, they tried to do this. I'm not gonna. Yeah, I'm gonna. Always keep in mind, if they. Feeling down, I got to really zero in. But they told me that, and I was kind of like, dude, I have those thoughts every day. [01:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:07] Speaker A: Every day. I'm like, so I promise you, like, it's. It's not worth, like, going through with it if you ever feel like it. And I'm like, yo, you can call me. And like, that to me is like, you get deep, and it gives you an opportunity to go, all right, I have someone who knows that I feel this way, and if I ever need an outlet, I'm here. Here. [01:17:24] Speaker B: The power of telling somebody they're not alone. [01:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:28] Speaker A: It's. It's so. And as men, as you get older, it's harder even just to make friends. [01:17:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:35] Speaker A: You know, thank God for comedy, because we were able to sort of agree and, like, connect on. On this. But, yo, what about dudes who work in accounting who, you know, they have their wife and kids, and they can't say what they're really thinking in their job. And it's like, yo, making friends at 30 years old is impossible. [01:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Their circle of influence is. Is limited to the people they Work with and then the people they grew up with and then, yeah, their wife, like that. That's what's nice about. I mean, you can call it a hobby, having a hobby where you meet a bunch of people that are looking to connect with others, you know, that are looking. That kind of have like an open door. That, that is one of the cool things about doing comedy is that I have met a lot of people at, you know, I'm 30 years old now, so I've, I've made new friends a lot later than most people do. [01:18:25] Speaker A: I think I have more friends than ever in my entire life. And, and that's. People do not say that at 30 years old. [01:18:30] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely not. [01:18:31] Speaker A: It's crazy. I have a friend, a female, who was telling me this story about how she got heavy into yoga, but she's super duper conservative and yoga is a very liberal. Yeah, liberal. And she was like, I. They didn't know I was conservative. And then when Trump got in, she started to let herself be seen a little more and they kind of not exiled her, but they, they were like, like you're not part of the group anymore. Even though they've known each other for now for two years. She made this really nice unit. And the cool part about comedy is it really doesn't matter. Your political. If you're hanging out with like good fun comics, it's one of the few things where your political opinion doesn't really matter. Whereas I think making friends at 30 now, also, that's a huge factor. [01:19:19] Speaker B: She just needs to go to another yoga studio that's outside of Brooklyn. Go to Long Island. [01:19:25] Speaker A: They're not, they don't live in New York. [01:19:27] Speaker B: Okay. [01:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the thing. I, I don't know, man. I don't know. I've never. Those yogi and I love yoga. I have done. I did yoga. [01:19:36] Speaker B: Well, they're. Yeah, they're so hippie dippy. And it's, you know, it's like peace, love and all that. But the thing that, like that, you know, that that tends to be more left, but now the left is very unaccepting. [01:19:54] Speaker A: The left is the worst. [01:19:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's, it's, it's not, it's not what it used to be like being, being peaceful and being, you know, love is love and we love everybody. You're really not. Because you're preaching that, but it's, it's very set in stone. Like this is how we feel. And if you don't agree, get the. [01:20:14] Speaker A: Fuck out of here. [01:20:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's sad. I remember watching. I know you didn't watch the new season, White Lotus, right? [01:20:19] Speaker A: I didn't watch any of it. [01:20:20] Speaker B: All right. There's. There's this character, you know, one of. There's this group of women. They're all at this hotel together. It's three of them. One of them is like a writer in New York City. One of them is an actress in la, and another one is a housewife in Austin. [01:20:36] Speaker A: Okay. [01:20:36] Speaker B: And the housewife in Austin kind of brings up Trump, and her two friends are like, you didn't vote for him. [01:20:43] Speaker A: Right? [01:20:43] Speaker B: She's like, well, you know, I just. My husband likes him. I kind of like him. And they. They shun her for it. Yeah. And that's exactly what I thought of when you. When you spoke about this, because they were all. They're also, like, in the show, they're depicted as kind of like yoga chicks and, you know. And. Yeah, that's. That sucks. [01:21:02] Speaker A: It's fucking terrible, dude. It's not fair. And it's like, yo, just because you voted for someone, or would you believe this? Which, by the way, the conservatives. And I'll say it fucking here makes so much more sense than the liberals right now. And that's why I lean. I mean, I'm in the middle, but I lean way more. Fucking right. So you. You've heard it here, motherfucker. [01:21:18] Speaker B: But, yeah, close the border. [01:21:25] Speaker A: In acting school. Right? I'll give you this. This is gonna be. Yeah. [01:21:31] Speaker B: Acting school. I kind of know where you're going with this. When you were out in LA. [01:21:34] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. This was even before LA. This was 2016. [01:21:36] Speaker B: Oh, my. [01:21:37] Speaker A: TRUMP came in. [01:21:38] Speaker B: Okay. [01:21:38] Speaker A: I. [01:21:39] Speaker B: When you were in school. [01:21:40] Speaker A: Yeah. I voted for Trump. [01:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:41] Speaker A: And I couldn't tell anybody. [01:21:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:43] Speaker A: And people in the acting class were like, oh, him, He's a monster. And I'm sitting there going like, I voted for this guy. [01:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:49] Speaker A: And I didn't tell anybody. And I had to hide that. And then when he won, everyone was like, if you need to take the day, you could take the day. And I said. I was like, why are we taking the day? I'm like, I paid for school. [01:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:02] Speaker A: I'm like, he's the president. Big fucking deal. [01:22:04] Speaker B: It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I felt the same way because I voted for him in 2016. And this is why I hate explaining myself. People. I would tell people that I voted for him. [01:22:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:18] Speaker B: And it would go, how could you? And I was like, because. Because you think like that. [01:22:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:24] Speaker B: Because you think that I can't do that. [01:22:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:27] Speaker B: That I shouldn't. [01:22:28] Speaker A: That's enough. [01:22:28] Speaker B: People like you telling, telling half of the country like, that's so wrong. How dare you? How could you even wrap your head around voting for him? And it's like, you made me, in a way. [01:22:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:40] Speaker B: You kind of made me feel this way. [01:22:41] Speaker A: It's like when your parents tell you not to smoke cigarettes. It's like you just want to do it more. [01:22:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Or you know, they're just like, that's wrong. Yeah, that's wrong. And it's like, why? Why is that wrong? [01:22:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I have. [01:22:50] Speaker B: Because you decided to. [01:22:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:52] Speaker B: You decided I have every right to. [01:22:54] Speaker A: Vote for whoever the fuck I want to vote for. [01:22:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And it shouldn't, it really should not be that big of a deal who you vote for. It's because it's like everybody has different opinions on everything and you just pick a side that is more aligned with what you. Like what, what people do is with Republicans, they take all of the worst aspects of Republicans and they place it on the voters. [01:23:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:23:26] Speaker B: You know, so like if you vote Republican, you're automatically a racist and a sexist. [01:23:31] Speaker A: Yep. [01:23:32] Speaker B: And then if you're a Democrat, you are. You, you think with your heart, you know, you. And they don't, they don't talk about all of the, the worst things of that party. [01:23:43] Speaker A: There's a saying of like, if, if you're a young person and you're not liberal, you lack a heart. If you're an older person and you're not a conservative brain. [01:23:50] Speaker B: Right. [01:23:51] Speaker A: Which is, I get it. But now there's no heart in liberals. There's not, there's nothing that's, it's the most toxic. [01:23:58] Speaker B: They're, they, they only love people that vote with them and people that were born outside of this country. [01:24:05] Speaker A: 100. [01:24:06] Speaker B: It's insane. [01:24:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And if you have a dick and you're white, God help you. And you, like, if you have any. [01:24:12] Speaker B: Sort of, if you are misrepresented in any way or if you have any sort of like struggle. [01:24:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:25] Speaker B: So called struggle. That's how they, you know, or any sort of perceived struggle, then you have. [01:24:33] Speaker A: You know, you're, you're, you're special. [01:24:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:37] Speaker B: We, you have to be taken care of. If you have any sort of victimhood. [01:24:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:41] Speaker A: He's like, you know how we'll help you? We'll move into your neighborhood and jack up the prices and. [01:24:45] Speaker B: Well. And you know what, you know what's really fucking crazy, dude, is that, you know, white Men are especially straight white men. They're seen as, like, the worst of society. [01:24:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:57] Speaker B: But then if a straight white man comes out as trans and cuts his dick off, then all of a sudden, he is. [01:25:06] Speaker A: He's a hero. [01:25:06] Speaker B: She is. She is the. She's her. She's queen. She's. We have to save her. It's nuts. [01:25:14] Speaker A: We should do a mockumentary on that. [01:25:16] Speaker B: It's so. Dude, it's so nuts. I could very easily. If I just. If I started to dress like a woman and started to present myself as. As a woman, I could say all of the worst shit that I feel. It would be like, wow, she's really brave. It's so cool that she thinks like that. She's so nuanced. [01:25:36] Speaker A: Look at her. Look at her go. [01:25:37] Speaker B: Yes. It's fucking. I'm gonna say this right now. There are. There is. I'll just say it there. There's a trans person that I know, and the way she speaks to me, I'm like, if you were a dude, we would have a really big. [01:25:54] Speaker A: Would have been knocked out. [01:25:55] Speaker B: We would have a huge problem. [01:25:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:57] Speaker B: But because you are a woman now youw get away with it. [01:26:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:02] Speaker B: And it's fucking bullshit. See, the way I said, it's like the fine print. [01:26:05] Speaker A: Yeah. I, I, I. I don't want to get arrested for any hate crimes. But, like, if you. If I could still see the dude in your face, I should. I should have a right to hit you. [01:26:15] Speaker B: Shave that Adam's apple down or we're fighting. [01:26:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. I just. It's like, how dare you. Like, I've let women speak to me. I would never touch a woman ever. Like, a real woman. [01:26:24] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah, a real woman. Yeah. [01:26:26] Speaker A: But, like, if you, if you, if I could see the dude in your eyes, it's. I should be. [01:26:32] Speaker B: It's game over. Yeah. [01:26:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, you'd be dead, Right? [01:26:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, if you had a gun and I had a gun. [01:26:38] Speaker A: We're gonna duel. [01:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:42] Speaker A: I don't know. This is. Dude, we live in an insane society. I think women. I think it's the trans movement. I think you should. If you want to do whatever you want to do, fine, I guess. But when you start disparaging the things that women. And I love women. I'm not. I don't call my. I'm not a feminist, but I. I think women should have every right that a man has. I think they should do, you know? But you're fucking up what women have been fighting for for fucking decades. [01:27:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:06] Speaker A: By doing the shit that you're. [01:27:07] Speaker B: You're. You're kind of hopping on the train when it's. When it's already taken off. [01:27:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Like what? [01:27:12] Speaker B: Like you're. [01:27:13] Speaker A: You're. [01:27:14] Speaker B: You didn't. You didn't go through the struggle of being a woman your whole entire life. Yeah. You just decided, you know, that I. [01:27:20] Speaker A: Can get a further ahead this way. [01:27:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Or I guess, you know, I'm more comfortable. And. And that's fine. Like, do whatever you want to do. I don't give a shit. But it's when it. When you start trying to change legislation to benefit a fraction of the country or a fraction of the world, and you make that the number one issue, it's like, what are we doing here? [01:27:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Be more like Thailand. The ladyboys know they're not women. [01:27:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And they're just having fun. [01:27:52] Speaker A: Yeah. They're doing. [01:27:53] Speaker B: They're part of the attraction. [01:27:54] Speaker A: That's. And they fucking. They're awesome. [01:27:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:57] Speaker A: So, like, that's how we should be treating the trans people. [01:27:59] Speaker B: Like, I think. I think RuPaul's Drag Race is a fine show, you know, But I don't think that the Secretary of Health needs to be a trans woman, because we've never had one before. [01:28:10] Speaker A: No. [01:28:10] Speaker B: Why? [01:28:11] Speaker A: No, we need. We need a white man in power. [01:28:14] Speaker B: We need a white man who can barely speak because he's got a brain worm. [01:28:18] Speaker A: I actually love rfk, believe it or not. [01:28:20] Speaker B: I don't really have an opinion on him. I just think it's very interesting that he used to be liberal and now he's conservative. I think. I think that that is more telling of the current administration that a lot of the people in it used to be Democrats. [01:28:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:28:36] Speaker B: And they felt so alienated by the other side. [01:28:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:28:41] Speaker B: So that's. That's the thing, like, if you're gonna eat your own. The. If you want to look at the side of tolerance, the right has more claim to it now. [01:28:50] Speaker A: Then they'll accept you coming. Like, they, hey, you want to come over here? We'll accept you. Yeah. The liberals will be like, no, no, no. You were. You were on that side. Get the fuck out of here. [01:28:56] Speaker B: Right. [01:28:59] Speaker A: Anyway, I think we got to cut it. What time is it? [01:29:01] Speaker B: It's. [01:29:02] Speaker A: Yeah, it's two o' clock. All right. Dude, I had a blast. Love you. [01:29:06] Speaker B: I love you, man. [01:29:07] Speaker A: You're the best. This is fun. We have a show. Comedy Kills. I'm gonna get this out before then. May 29, 8pm Fierce City Comedy Club. [01:29:16] Speaker B: Yes, sir. [01:29:17] Speaker A: Joe and I We always put that show together monthly. We run Plan B comedy. That's Plan B. Dot comedy. And what's your Instagram mojo? [01:29:25] Speaker B: So dope. That's M O J O E. So dope. [01:29:28] Speaker A: And he's. Check it, check it out, dude. Joe is legitimately one of my favorite people in the scene. And in general, you've. You've been there for me. I love you so much, dude. [01:29:38] Speaker B: And Harrison's all right. [01:29:40] Speaker A: I'm okay. [01:29:41] Speaker B: He's just. [01:29:41] Speaker A: He's. [01:29:42] Speaker B: He's. He's there, you know, I'm trans. He'd be a great woman. [01:29:46] Speaker A: I would be a fantastic woman. I would. [01:29:48] Speaker B: Listen, go follow Harrison Marks on Instagram. He's posting out questions.
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